Then don't do that....
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Then don't do that....
Then don't do that....
Then don't do that....
I personally have been hit in the leg from a 45 acp shot into a cedar tree stump. Came right back at me from about 50 feet!
Bounced off my leg and landed in the dirt. I had loose jeans on that absorb most of the energy left. Left a small bruise.So what did the round do to you?
There is a range in north Houston that faces north towards utterly unusable swamp land. It operated for decades. Then some real estate developer bought the swamp land, hauled in untold hundreds of trucks full of fill dirt, and built a subdivision. The range had to make changes, adding baffles and closing their longer-range firing line, because the folks who bought in that subdivision raised holy hell. This didn't happen until after people started buying houses.I've always wondered who in their right minds would buy property a mile or two to three beyond a public rifle range.
It's no wonder so many shooting ranges in Europe, even longer ones up to 300M, are fully baffled or indoors. I really think that for any major shooting range to operate near a population center, that's the way to go.
Same here, I'd rather hear gunfire then the way too much bass stereo.I like it out here.
All my neighbors shoot too.
But unfortunately, it happens. We had a new range shut down here the week after it opened because of more fear of rounds leaving the range than anything else.As for the developers, I can't really blame them. The law is clear about rounds not leaving your property. Just because a range is there, it shouldn't devalue adjacent porperty. If that were the case, then adjacent property owners should have the right to veto a range operation. And we don't want that.
It was probably snowflakes that didn't like the noise and used the "fear of rounds leaving the range" excuse. Reminds me of the time homeowners tried to sue Sea-Tac airport in Washington. The airport had been there longer than any homes, too bad.But unfortunately, it happens. We had a new range shut down here the week after it opened because of more fear of rounds leaving the range than anything else.
You're right about that. The people who lived on the down range side of it got a huge crew of people with metal detectors to sweep their properties. Surprise, surprise - they found some bullets - out in the county in rural Texas. Of course, they had to have come from the range.It was probably snowflakes that didn't like the noise and used the "fear of rounds leaving the range" excuse. Reminds me of the time homeowners tried to sue Sea-Tac airport in Washington. The airport had been there longer than any homes, too bad.
Yeah, because nobody would have been shooting out there before homes were built, right?You're right about that. The people who lived on the down range side of it got a huge crew of people with metal detectors to sweep their properties. Surprise, surprise - they found some bullets - out in the county in rural Texas. Of course, they had to have come from the range.
Not trying to start an argument, here, and I don't think you are, either.I'd really love to aruge this point with you, but I've been to more than one public range. The real problem isn't the range, but the people who visit it. Even idtiots have guns.
I don't know.Wonder what the day rate is on a range like that...
In the thread where I mistakenly first posted the pictures above, Younggun asked:
I don't know.
The rates for the French range in the second picture (which includes several ranges and a nice restaurant) are shown here: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://www.eurostand-lorraine.fr/tarifs_2_983.htm
I can't tell if that means it's just 170 Euros per year for membership and access to all facilities or if they also charge a 20 Euros per day access fee on top of that.
Either way, to me, given the quality of the facilities, that seems fairly reasonable. I realize other people will feel differently. (I use the qualifier "fairly" because if the cost is 170/year, that's a screaming deal. If the use of the facilities also requires an additional 20/day, that could get really expensive for someone like me who would want to live at the range.)
Seriously, though, wouldn't most of us like to have a home club like this? (It's a shame the video doesn't show the restaurant.)
In the thread where I mistakenly first posted the pictures above, Younggun asked:
I don't know.
The rates for the French range in the second picture (which includes several ranges and a nice restaurant) are shown here: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://www.eurostand-lorraine.fr/tarifs_2_983.htm
I can't tell if that means it's just 170 Euros per year for membership and access to all facilities or if they also charge a 20 Euros per day access fee on top of that.
Either way, to me, given the quality of the facilities, that seems fairly reasonable. I realize other people will feel differently.
Taking a detour off-topic: I use the qualifier "fairly" because if the cost is 170/year, that's a screaming deal. If the use of the facilities also requires an additional 20/day, that could get really expensive for someone like me who would want to live at the range. That's the same reason I wouldn't consider relocating to Talledega. The Talledega Marksmanship Park may be one of the two or three best shooting facilities in the U.S. but there's no way to get a price break; even if you buy range passes in bulk, you can't escape paying $25 every time you set foot on the range. OTOH, I'm an old-style life member of The Whittington Center which means it's completely free for me, forever. However, I can't justify moving to the middle of nowhere; Raton, NM, is really a boring armpit of a place. Oh, well - first-world problems, I suppose.
Seriously, though, wouldn't most of us like to have a home club like this? It's a shame the video doesn't show the restaurant.
Very nice facility, something for all sizes.
But unfortunately, it happens. We had a new range shut down here the week after it opened because of more fear of rounds leaving the range than anything else.
Not trying to start an argument, here, and I don't think you are, either.
I was just pointing out that while idiots on public ranges can do stupid stuff, a fully baffled range can prevent any shot from leaving the property.
I'll preface this question by acknowledging that a precise answer is impossible.
Does anyone know how far a ricochet can travel if the screaming projectile is traveling at 800 or 1,600 or 2,400 feet per second???
The question arises from shooting 100 and 200 yards (a lot of rounds) at targets in the middle of a, rather rocky, 450 yard deep field with a high berm of a stock tank at the end of the field and houses 1.35 miles from the shooting bench.
My concern is the the field has a lot of rocks from 3" to 6" all over the place.
My buddy that took me shooting there was unconcerned, believing that the berm was keeping things safe, until I raised the question.
He was also frightened by the recognition that ricochets were even occurring, made apparent by my suppressor's allowing him to shoot without ear protection.
I'm thinking that a 5.56 or 7.62 round glancing off a 6" rock could easily travel the 1 1/3 mile!!!
Any opinions or actual data???
HKS
Happy T-Giving all. Safe shooting.