Texas Cannabis

[Wildcat Diva]

I love it when an intelligent Country Girl, who is not under the influence of Popular Culture, stands up for her principles. I’ve been married to one of these for over 47 years. Ooh-Rah!!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thank you. And in analyzing my response to this topic, my character is one of rebelling against what others want me to do, if that is what makes sense to me.

I’ve almost always chosen to stand out in the crowd if it’s made sense to me to do so. Sometimes I really don’t know the underneath of why I’ve felt this way on whatever topic... but often my instincts do seem to be based on some unchanging facet that I can’t always put my finger on (and is rarely nefarious once discovered). Going with my gut seems to have served me pretty well so far.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Nobody has even mentioned the concept of pot being a gateway drug.

 

[Younggun]

(This post will probably be taken way too seriously)

Nailed it.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

Nailed it.

Did I mention how funny and cute it was?

 

[Vaquero]

Nobody has even mentioned the concept of pot being a gateway drug.

Leads to dancing?

 

[Wildcat Diva]

Did I mention how funny and cute it was?

^^^ (just go ahead right now and add that post to the “out of context” thread)

 

[majormadmax]

Nobody has even mentioned the concept of pot being a gateway drug.

There are many organizations that claim it isn't. Per the National Institute on Drug Abuse, "the majority of people who use marijuana do not go on to use other, harder substances." In fact, alcohol and nicotine also prime the brain for a heightened response to other drugs and are, like marijuana, also typically used before a person progresses to other, more harmful substances. People who are more vulnerable to drug-taking are simply more likely to start with readily available substances such as marijuana, tobacco, or alcohol and their subsequent social interactions with others who use drugs increases their chances of trying other drugs. (Source)

That said, most reports and studies on the health risks of marijuana agree it has a negative impact on brain development and functions (it impair thinking, memory, and learning functions) both temporarily and permanently! it also causes respiratory issues, increased heart rates, problems with child development during and after pregnancy, intense nausea and vomiting, and long-term mental problems.

 

[easy rider]

I myself am on the fence as far as recreational use goes. It's hard to say "make it legal" when I can see the potential for harm it can do, yet, it's also difficult to say not to when it's as widespread as it is and it fuels the corruption involved for it being illegal.
I have witnessed the medical side of it, and therefore can't deny it's benefits. The research that's been done and still being done is coming out with more and more evidence of these benefits.
As far as a "gateway drug", it's my belief that was more propaganda then actual truth used to place marijuana on the level of heroin.

 

[Lunyfringe]

Vogue is about the liberal agenda, not trends.

agreed, but even the name implies they're not about reality, but what's popular.
vogue
vōɡ/
noun

1. 1.
   the prevailing fashion or style at a particular time.

adjective

1. 1.
   popular; fashionable.

It would be like getting your news from the Onion, and thinking it was real.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

agreed, but even the name implies they're not about reality, but what's popular.
vogue
vōɡ/
noun

1. 1.
   the prevailing fashion or style at a particular time.

adjective

1. 1.
   popular; fashionable.

It would be like getting your news from the Onion, and thinking it was real.

Wasn’t using it for news, was using it as an example of a common argument POV.

Cultural attitude, not so much facts.

 

[easy rider]

In this day and age "cultural attitudes" is more troubling to me than pot.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

In this day and age "cultural attitudes" is more troubling to me than pot.

But cultural attitudes in relation to what or as representative of what? I don’t see those two factors as comparative.

 

[Lunyfringe]

The problem with leftist "cultural attitudes" are that if you don't accept them, then YOU'RE the bad guy (girl). You're a bigot, racist, >blank<ophobe... It's "Freedom of speech- as long as we agree with it".

 

[Younggun]

When I ask myself questions about legality the first question I ask is "Does this action violate any of my rights?"

If the answer is no, I have a difficult time justifying the prohibition of said action. I find the support of prohibition simply because I don't like something to be a dangerous attitude to have. I also find that prohibiting something because some people will abuse it to be dangerous.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I myself am on the fence as far as recreational use goes. It's hard to say "make it legal" when I can see the potential for harm it can do, yet, it's also difficult to say not to when it's as widespread as it is and it fuels the corruption involved for it being illegal.
I have witnessed the medical side of it, and therefore can't deny it's benefits. The research that's been done and still being done is coming out with more and more evidence of these benefits.
As far as a "gateway drug", it's my belief that was more propaganda then actual truth used to place marijuana on the level of heroin.

I don't know who would put pot on the same level as heroin.
There are many options before one gets into that.

 

[easy rider]

I don't know who would put pot on the same level as heroin.
There are many options before one gets into that.

Try the U.S. government.

 

[Lunyfringe]

When I ask myself questions about legality the first question I ask is "Does this action violate any of my rights?"

If the answer is no, I have a difficult time justifying the prohibition of said action. I find the support of prohibition simply because I don't like something to be a dangerous attitude to have. I also find that prohibiting something because some people will abuse it to be dangerous.

I used to believe this way completely... I even voted for the legalization in Colorado for this reason- I now regret it.

And it's because the first question- "Does this action violate any of my rights?" No, voting for Amendment 64 didn't (directly)- so I even voted for it. In 2013 my rights were most certainly violated by a brazen state legislature that felt they could completely ignore conservatives, after all, they had the votes to get things like legal pot... Can I prove a direct correlation? no, but I'd ask everyone to consider Adding this question:

"Could this action lead to future violation of my rights? Has there ever been a history of it leading to that?"
Another example would be voting for something that doesn't violate YOUR rights, but does somebody else's... that's the kind of action that leads to tyranny.

because those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[TheDan]

The losers who smoke pot are losers for other reasons.

Yep... It's the things, physiological and psychological, that cause people to become addicts and abusers that is the culprit; not the object of the obsession.

Man, I am still feeling annoyed at that complete stranger dude’s comments at the store earlier.

Being triggered isn't just for SJWs.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

Here’s the rub.


It’s hard to want to vote for something that will in all likelihood will primarily make my environment more unacceptable to me in light of that it’s secondarily related to the issue of affirming the rights of people to be free and personally responsible for their actions...

The second concern is at the cost of the first concern (IMO) further harming the culture in a way that I feel is unacceptable and an antithesis of a socio-cultural environment that I want to live in, (and also my kids and grandkids to live in.) I have my vote and you can have yours. They will all add up and I’ve been true to myself the best I can with a difficult (for me) topic to contend with.

 

[Younggun]

I used to believe this way completely... I even voted for the legalization in Colorado for this reason- I now regret it.

And it's because the first question- "Does this action violate any of my rights?" No, voting for Amendment 64 didn't- so I even voted for it. In 2013 my rights were most certainly violated by a brazen state legislature that felt they could completely ignore conservatives, after all, they had the votes to get things like legal pot... Can I prove a direct correlation? no, but I'd ask everyone to consider Adding this question:

"Could this action lead to future violation of my rights? Has there ever been a history of it leading to that?"
Another example would be voting for something that doesn't violate YOUR rights, but does somebody else's... that's the kind of action that leads to tyranny.

because those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

Do you have the right to choose what goes in to your body?

I have considered what you put forth and it's not something to be ignored. But I also see that we have a right to our own body. I don't think Joe Puffy lighting up is a violation of anyone's rights. I do believe that the government has violated people's rights in order to secure votes or push an agenda. Is violating someone's right to their body the right answer?


I'm not questioning the risks, nor do I believe pot is something special that everyone needs to get in touch with nature or to understand the truth of the latest conspiracy theory. I am averse to using government issues as an excuse to reduce personal freedom.

I'm also well aware that there are social views that are a direct threat to freedom. Certain ideologies that are in direct conflict with our values and pose great threats to the freedom we enjoy. Although a person practicing or possessing the ideology may not be a direct threat, widespread popularity of such an ideology could easily lead to the destruction of our society.

Weed may not be on the same level but can lead to similar outcomes in an immoral society. So do we fight side effects by restricting rights and creating more demand for the right restricted, or do we fight to increase individual morality and responsibility?

I believe the latter is a much better long term answer, and one that we must achieve regardless of what happens with pot. Otherwise we are doomed.