Texas Cannabis

[Wildcat Diva]

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Being triggered isn't just for SJWs.

Often things stick because I need to learn something from the event. More people should try it sometime.

 

[Dawico]

Legalization will eliminate any connection that I see.

ETA This was in response to Cam's gateway drug comment. Poor internet connection lost the quote.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Legalization will eliminate any connection that I see.

ETA This was in response to Cam's gateway drug comment. Poor internet connection lost the quote.

I don't follow your logic.

 

[toddnjoyce]

While the initial question, “Does this violate any of my rights?” Is a good question to start with, I follow that with the thought of “What unintended consequences could occur and will those violate my rights”. And that’s where I get hung up on this particular question.

The reality is that ingesting marijuana, medically or recreationally, is a personal choice. But, the ability to do so in public starts to infringe on my right to NOT ingest it.

If my neighbor has a pot farm in his backyard and that lowers the value of property, I’m impacted though I did nothing to support it. And because he’s now growing a cash crop that’s in high demand, my exposure to property crime is increased, further reducing my property value.

Since pot doesn’t replace alcohol, the incidences of DUI increase, resulting in a need for more law enforcement personnel, and increasing my tax burden.

It’s those unintended consequences that have yet to be documented anywhere I can find.

And that’s why I don’t buy the argument that legalizing marijuana is solely a personal choice issue.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

^^^Oh, I’ve been “THAT guy (girl?)” at a concert to say, “YOU... yes YOU need to knock it off up in here. I’m a nursing mother and I don’t want your toxic smoke impacting my body and breast milk so you can jolly well knock it off or move, the hell if I will move because of your shit. Security!”

I’m a blast to be around, let me tell you.

 

[Dawico]

While the initial question, “Does this violate any of my rights?” Is a good question to start with, I follow that with the thought of “What unintended consequences could occur and will those violate my rights”. And that’s where I get hung up on this particular question.

The reality is that ingesting marijuana, medically or recreationally, is a personal choice. But, the ability to do so in public starts to infringe on my right to NOT ingest it.

If my neighbor has a pot farm in his backyard and that lowers the value of property, I’m impacted though I did nothing to support it. And because he’s now growing a cash crop that’s in high demand, my exposure to property crime is increased, further reducing my property value.

Since pot doesn’t replace alcohol, the incidences of DUI increase, resulting in a need for more law enforcement personnel, and increasing my tax burden.

It’s those unintended consequences that have yet to be documented anywhere I can find.

And that’s why I don’t buy the argument that legalizing marijuana is solely a personal choice issue.

I think you are reaching a little bit (ok, a lot).

I see legal pot about the same as alcohol as far as consumption. You won't have people hanging around everywhere smoking it like people aren't just hanging around drinking.

Everything else you mention is quite a stretch.

 

[Vaquero]

Well,
Damn.

 

[easy rider]

Well,
Damn.

Yep.

 

[toddnjoyce]

I think you are reaching a little bit (ok, a lot).

I see legal pot about the same as alcohol as far as consumption. You won't have people hanging around everywhere smoking it like people aren't just hanging around drinking.

Everything else you mention is quite a stretch.

I lived through it for three years in CO from 2013 - 2016. You do have people hanging around smoking it just because they can. Been to any of the major ski resorts lately? You can’t take a lift from bottom to top without being exposed, either from someone on your chair or the chair in front of you.

The day recreational marijuana was legalized, actuarial tables changed and my auto and homeowners insurance increased. While CO taxes the shit out of MJ, it can only be used for certain programs, none of which are for enforcement; primarily education and treatment programs.

I’ve had hotels have to move adjoining guests after waking up from the odor of their pot drifting into my room.

You can believe I’m reaching, but my experience doesn’t support that conclusion for me.

 

[Dawico]

I don't follow your logic.

The gateway is the fact that a user is finding a dealer to buy from that probably has heavier stuff. Also because it is illegal users don't necessarily shun being around the heavier drug users, with ease of trying something else.

If it were legal and sold at the store then both of these situations would be greatly reduced.

Does smoking pot make you want to get into harder drugs? Not necessarily but reducing the exposure to them would be a good thing for those under the influence.

 

[Vaquero]

Fussing about pot smoke at a rock concert is like fussing about noise at a gun range.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

The gateway is the fact that a user is finding a dealer to buy from that probably has heavier stuff. Also because it is illegal users don't necessarily shun being around the heavier drug users, with ease of trying something else.

If it were legal and sold at the store then both of these situations would be greatly reduced.

Does smoking pot make you want to get into harder drugs? Not necessarily but reducing the exposure to them would be a good thing for those under the influence.

I had to read twice.
First time I disagreed, then realized it made sense the next time.

 

[grumper]

Legally and morally don't really give a crap either way. Except the kind of garbage it attracts when states legalize. All the retards that care about nothing except firing up their next blunt will flood the state and vote to give themselves free taxpayer money while contributing nothing except toking up.

Vote away all your other rights, let illegals vote, put the state into massive debt. Who cares about that stuff as long as there's 'legal' chronic?

I don't think TX needs any of that.

 

[Vaquero]

No one has brought up tobacco.
Nicotine. Strongest addiction I've ever had.
Bad for me and those around me.
Real bad.
Completely legal.
Federal and State.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

Fussing about pot smoke at a rock concert is like fussing about noise at a gun range.

Clearly you’ve never had a suckling babe at risk of drinking your tainted milk that you’d prefer not be so and shouldn’t have to compromise on.

 

[Vaquero]

Clearly you’ve never had a suckling babe drinking your tainted milk that you’d prefer not be so and shouldn’t have to compromise on.

What band headlined that concert?
Why did you go under those circumstances ?

 

[Brains]

 

[Wildcat Diva]

I do believe it was Kiss.

What do you mean why did I go? I have a right to go.

 

[Vaquero]

No further questions.

 

[Wildcat Diva]

I didn’t just worry about it. I did something about it.

And I have since, and will again, when I don’t want to breathe it in.

People can do what they want to, so can I, and it can be a big fricking annoying battle that will kill your buzz if you have the unfortunate experience to be right by me subjecting me to breathing pot smoke.