Don't do the crime....

[majormadmax]

And you are going to believe a Chicago DA? ROTFL!

I believe he's more knowledgeable on Illinois law than any of us, and made the right decision in this case...

 

[AustinN4]

I believe he's more knowledgeable on Illinois law than any of us, and made the right decision in this case...

You mean like Rob Emanuel?

 

[Dawico]

I love a happy ending.

The story reads like the owner was in front of the Jeep when the kid took off. The theft alone justifies the shoot but the kid also tried to run him down.

For those of you who would give your stuff away to a thief before shooting, you are part of the problem.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

 

[diesel1959]

You mean like Rob Emanuel?

Rahm.

 

[Lunyfringe]

I love a happy ending.

The story reads like the owner was in front of the Jeep when the kid took off. The theft alone justifies the shoot but the kid also tried to run him down.

For those of you who would give your stuff away to a thief before shooting, you are part of the problem.

You gonna put up bail money?

 

[Moonpie]

I think what gets lost in cases of theft is the total toll the victim suffers.
Its not just the item that was stolen, its the actual cost/loss to the rightful owner.
My home has been broken into twice with many items taken.
The second time was very bad. The thieves practically took everything I had. Guns, tools, other belongings. Hell, they even took bedsheets. It was devastating both financially and emotionally. I didn't really give a darn about the TV or the stereo but Grandfathers pocket watch and Great-Great Uncle's military sword hurt. They can never, ever be replaced.
Insurance is a fvcking joke. The bastards will not pay.
Even if they did, the family heirlooms are gone. Even if you could find a replacement it is not the same thing.
Another example is your automobile.
Yes, there are others like it. You worked gobs of overtime to afford the vehicle you wanted. Gave up many hours of family time. Worked yourself hard. Now you have your dream car. Then some asshole steals it. All that time and effort you spent are stolen as well.
Again, Insurance is a fvcking joke. They make up some lame ass excuse not to pay you. Or cheat you short.
Its not the loss of the item so much as that part of your life thieves rob you of. THAT is why all thieves should die.
As much as it pains me to agree with Sharia Law, chopping a low down dirty thief hand off isn't a bad idea.

 

[Dawico]

You gonna put up bail money?

Why? Because you are too weak to do what needs to be done?

If you won't defend your possessions because somebody wants to take them then you don't deserve them in the first place.

 

[AustinN4]

Rahm.

He is Rob to me. Get it? Rob as in steal.

 

[Dawico]

I think what gets lost in cases of theft is the total toll the victim suffers.
Its not just the item that was stolen, its the actual cost/loss to the rightful owner.
My home has been broken into twice with many items taken.
The second time was very bad. The thieves practically took everything I had. Guns, tools, other belongings. Hell, they even took bedsheets. It was devastating both financially and emotionally. I didn't really give a darn about the TV or the stereo but Grandfathers pocket watch and Great-Great Uncle's military sword hurt. They can never, ever be replaced.
Insurance is a fvcking joke. The bastards will not pay.
Even if they did, the family heirlooms are gone. Even if you could find a replacement it is not the same thing.
Another example is your automobile.
Yes, there are others like it. You worked gobs of overtime to afford the vehicle you wanted. Gave up many hours of family time. Worked yourself hard. Now you have your dream car. Then some ******* steals it. All that time and effort you spent are stolen as well.
Again, Insurance is a fvcking joke. They make up some lame ass excuse not to pay you. Or cheat you short.
Its not the loss of the item so much as that part of your life thieves rob you of. THAT is why all thieves should die.
As much as it pains me to agree with Sharia Law, chopping a low down dirty thief hand off isn't a bad idea.

Quit saying stuff I agree with. It just seems so wrong......

 

[AustinN4]

I think what gets lost in cases of theft is the total toll the victim suffers.
Its not just the item that was stolen, its the actual cost/loss to the rightful owner.
My home has been broken into twice with many items taken.
The second time was very bad. The thieves practically took everything I had. Guns, tools, other belongings. Hell, they even took bedsheets. It was devastating both financially and emotionally. I didn't really give a darn about the TV or the stereo but Grandfathers pocket watch and Great-Great Uncle's military sword hurt. They can never, ever be replaced.
Insurance is a fvcking joke. The bastards will not pay.
Even if they did, the family heirlooms are gone. Even if you could find a replacement it is not the same thing.
Another example is your automobile.
Yes, there are others like it. You worked gobs of overtime to afford the vehicle you wanted. Gave up many hours of family time. Worked yourself hard. Now you have your dream car. Then some ******* steals it. All that time and effort you spent are stolen as well.
Again, Insurance is a fvcking joke. They make up some lame ass excuse not to pay you. Or cheat you short.
Its not the loss of the item so much as that part of your life thieves rob you of. THAT is why all thieves should die.
As much as it pains me to agree with Sharia Law, chopping a low down dirty thief hand off isn't a bad idea.

Having been there myself, I agree it is a horrible experience to be robbed.
I have been robbed at gunpoint and have also had luggage that I needed on a trip stolen from a locked van.

 

[TxStetson]

Quit saying stuff I agree with. It just seems so wrong......

I know the feeling. Sometimes I see you post things that I was about to say. It just ain’t right.

 

[Southpaw]

Hell, they even took bedsheets.

WOW!!!!

 

[AustinN4]

I did not see the claim of self defense in the OP linked story (and looked at it again this morning), but searching this morning I did find this:
"The lieutenant fired his weapon at the teen, who was trying to run him over with the vehicle, authorities said."
http://chicago.homicidewatch.org/20...ant-who-claims-it-was-self-defense/index.html
So now I agree it was a good shoot based on IL law.

 

[Lunyfringe]

Why? Because you are too weak to do what needs to be done?

If you won't defend your possessions because somebody wants to take them then you don't deserve them in the first place.

Simply because your "advice" could land someone in jail. Is everything this black and white to you?

There could be other options than shooting someone in the back to get your stuff back.

 

[SloppyShooter]

Simply because your "advice" could land someone in jail. Is everything this black and white to you?

There could be other options than shooting someone in the back to get your stuff back.

Yeah, you could aim lower!

 

[Dawico]

Simply because your "advice" could land someone in jail. Is everything this black and white to you?

There could be other options than shooting someone in the back to get your stuff back.

Some issues are very black and white to me.

I'd gladly lose more money on ammo expenditures than my stuff getting stolen is worth.

 

[jrbfishn]

Thieves don't steal stuff, objects or money. They steal the part of my life it took me to get it because they are too lazy or greedy to work for it themselves. The time away from my family. The sweat and sometimes blood it took to earn it. The memories of tresured family keepsakes and the sacrifice it took to get them and keep them to hand down.
They don't take your life like a killer does, they take little pieces of it. One at a time. Over and over.
They get you to work so they don't have to. They make you their slave. So they can party while you earn them more stuff to steal.

Would one of you that believes theft should not be met with force, up to and including deadly force, please explain to me how insurance will give any of that back.

Thieves are good business for insurance companies. And insurance is good for thieves.
You work to have stuff and pay insurance.
Thieves take so they don't have to work.
Insurance you worked and paid for replaces some of the stuff you lost.
So thieves can take it from you again.
Sounds like a form of slavery to me.
I am NOT a willing slave. They need to be shot. Dead.

Did I mention that I detest a thief?

from an idjit coffeeholic

 

[Lunyfringe]

If considering the consequences of my actions makes some people think I'm weak, so be it... I have thicker skin than that.

No amount of insurance will give you back your freedom if you're found guilty of 2nd degree murder because you shot an unarmed piece of shit that stole your stuff.

Do they deserve death? Maybe, but it's irrelevant if a jury of your "peers" (and those who live in Travis or Harris Counties- and some others, should shudder at that idea) thinks they did not deserve the death you gave them. Even if acquitted, you may have to sell that same stuff to pay legal fees. Bad shit happens to good people all the time.

 

[diesel1959]

I think what gets lost in cases of theft is the total toll the victim suffers.
Its not just the item that was stolen, its the actual cost/loss to the rightful owner.
My home has been broken into twice with many items taken.
The second time was very bad. The thieves practically took everything I had. Guns, tools, other belongings. Hell, they even took bedsheets. It was devastating both financially and emotionally. I didn't really give a darn about the TV or the stereo but Grandfathers pocket watch and Great-Great Uncle's military sword hurt. They can never, ever be replaced.
Insurance is a fvcking joke. The bastards will not pay.
Even if they did, the family heirlooms are gone. Even if you could find a replacement it is not the same thing.
Another example is your automobile.
Yes, there are others like it. You worked gobs of overtime to afford the vehicle you wanted. Gave up many hours of family time. Worked yourself hard. Now you have your dream car. Then some ******* steals it. All that time and effort you spent are stolen as well.
Again, Insurance is a fvcking joke. They make up some lame ass excuse not to pay you. Or cheat you short.
Its not the loss of the item so much as that part of your life thieves rob you of. THAT is why all thieves should die.
As much as it pains me to agree with Sharia Law, chopping a low down dirty thief hand off isn't a bad idea.

I find myself . . . agreeing with Moonpie. WTF???