Interesting News on Open Carry.....

[Texan2]

TXI,
Since you are doing just fine on your ownm I just gonna let you run with this, as it is so full of incorrect statements it would take me all night to address it. I hate to break this to some folks, but most of your "rights" are licensed or regulated in some way.
I think I will sit back and relax for awhile, I just found out I am an elitist cop...at least that is what I have been told.

 

[Roscoe]

I guess you can carry concealled with a drop leg holster if you wear an overcoat everywhere you go. Too bad cops don't get paid elitest money!!

 

[Wolfwood]

cops with 'elitist' attitudes do exist, but by no means are all police jackbooted thugs.
infact, some are pretty laid back.

 

[mike75925]

i open carry. i did not say all cops were elitist. i said most. texascop2, i have not met you and/or conversed with you long enough to call you elitist. however, i would call you a bit over sensitive. yes, our more recent forefathers dropped the ball as to our rights. the right to travel is an inherent right of all mankind. there may be flaws in my citings, but i researched most of this a few years ago. i recently tried researching again only to find that these cases have been pulled from the public domain. the short and sweet of it: if you know of a right enumerated in the fed. constitution, you may act on it so long as you site the right by amendment/clause etc and claim the 14th amendment. so says the supreme court of the us. the right of men cannot be taxed, granted by the states in the form of priveleges or licenses. however, if you you do contract with a governmental entity, you are bound by that contract. but, if you were coerced into said contract, it is said you are not held at fault. it is a felony to deprive a citizen of their rights 10years and 250K? a school friend joined the marines, then the sheriffs office. i asked him how he reconciled his oaths, one to another. he didn't understand. as both military and leo, as far as i know, he is to support and defend the constitution. as a leo, he is to enforce the laws of this state. we (me and my father) asked him if we had the right to keep and bear arms, he said no they're illegal for the most part. we instructed him to read the 2nd, and he still did not see. in the Basic Military Requirements for the military it says: 'The Second Amendment concerns the right of the people to 'keep and bear arms.'' 'The Ninth Amendment states that the federal government cannot take away rights just because they are not in the Constitution.' so he enforces laws that are contrary to the us constitution. the state governments are allowed to give more freedoms than the us constitution has but are not to diminish them (those rights already enumerated). then you have states claiming sovereignty, and saying who cares what the fed says/does. the right to travel i believe they ( the us supreme court) said exist in the 'due process clause?' take the time to read at http://www.flyoverpress.com/constitutionallaw.htm and you will see what i am refering to. have a good morning!

 

[TexasRedneck]

Mike - with all due respect, some better punctuation would go a LONG way towards making your lengthy posts easier to read. I get a couple of sentences in, and I'm ready to rip my eyes out!

As to your "elitist" BS claim (I'll say it, since the active LEO's on this board are too polite) - SHOVE IT. Dude, cops are doing a dirty, dangerous, thankless damned job - and guys like you that run around with a chip on their shoulders should have that chip shoved where the sun don't shine. You do real good mouthing off on the net - I'd love to see you say that kind of thing to 'em to their face. Problem is, folks have gotten used to the idea that they can say whatever they want to about a cop and get away with it - but there ARE some citizens out here that still appreciate and respect them for the job they do. So in the future, if you have a specific issue with a specific cop or situation, I'll be happy to read about it and even suggest ways to resolve or get them called on the carpet if they've stepped out of bounds - but can the broad brush strokes!

 

[Wolfwood]

Mike - with all due respect, some better punctuation would go a LONG way towards making your lengthy posts easier to read. I get a couple of sentences in, and I'm ready to rip my eyes out!

As to your "elitist" BS claim (I'll say it, since the active LEO's on this board are too polite) - SHOVE IT. Dude, cops are doing a dirty, dangerous, thankless damned job - and guys like you that run around with a chip on their shoulders should have that chip shoved where the sun don't shine. You do real good mouthing off on the net - I'd love to see you say that kind of thing to 'em to their face. Problem is, folks have gotten used to the idea that they can say whatever they want to about a cop and get away with it - but there ARE some citizens out here that still appreciate and respect them for the job they do. So in the future, if you have a specific issue with a specific cop or situation, I'll be happy to read about it and even suggest ways to resolve or get them called on the carpet if they've stepped out of bounds - but can the broad brush strokes!

+1

 

[mike75925]

texas redneck, hi, thanks for your input. i have put punctuation in where it goes, according to the rules of punctuation; provided they have not changed since graduating in the year 2000. while in jail on a contempt of court charge, i spoke with several jailers and officers. most were afraid of everyday citizens carrying guns. they felt much like you do, in respect to cops doing the best they can with what they have available. i asked one why he worried about it. he blew me off like i knew nothing of which i spoke. i coaxed him back over and explained i had served in the military, and it is not a big deal. if you are observant of peoples rights, why would they harm you? he understood then what i meant. when i did get searched for the weapon, they, the 6 officers and dets., kept checking my crotch. i finally told them, i was about to file sexual harassment. they laughed and said 'yeah right'. i reminded them sexual harassment is according to the one being harassed. furthermore, no one told them they had to be a cop. i mean they don't draft people to be cops right? they choose it. yes i am aware that the military no longer drafts, but they had thought of re(my hyphen/underscore button is bad)instituting it. they also initiated stop loss. so if i don't boo hoo for those serving in our military why would i boohoo for a bunch that don't care to know half the laws they enforce and could care less if they are constitutional?

 

[TexasRedneck]

Sorry Mike - but apparently you didn't read the entire chapter. There's more to punctuation than periods - there's sentence structure, paragraphs, etc.

When you can get some of that down, I'll take the time to read - until then, your writing says you can't be bothered to try to do it properly - consequently, I don't feel inclined to decypher it.

 

[mike75925]

ah, and your claim was missing punctuation.

"Mike - with all due respect, some better punctuation would go a LONG way towards making your lengthy posts easier to read. I get a couple of sentences in, and I'm ready to rip my eyes out!"

i've proofread other's work since at least the third grade. i did journalism in high school. funny how i always got good marks in english without trying!

 

[TexasRedneck]

I'm sure you have, Mike - and those 3 years of experience really show.

 

[mike75925]

ah, redneck humor!! (slaps knee)

 

[mike75925]

if 2+2 doesn't equal 4, find out why. if you don't care, carry on!

 

[Texan2]

Mike - with all due respect, some better punctuation would go a LONG way towards making your lengthy posts easier to read. I get a couple of sentences in, and I'm ready to rip my eyes out!

As to your "elitist" BS claim (I'll say it, since the active LEO's on this board are too polite) - SHOVE IT. Dude, cops are doing a dirty, dangerous, thankless damned job - and guys like you that run around with a chip on their shoulders should have that chip shoved where the sun don't shine. You do real good mouthing off on the net - I'd love to see you say that kind of thing to 'em to their face. Problem is, folks have gotten used to the idea that they can say whatever they want to about a cop and get away with it - but there ARE some citizens out here that still appreciate and respect them for the job they do. So in the future, if you have a specific issue with a specific cop or situation, I'll be happy to read about it and even suggest ways to resolve or get them called on the carpet if they've stepped out of bounds - but can the broad brush strokes!

Thanks for having our back TR.....Hell, I admit I like to push buttons on here occasionally to get people thinking, but this thread just has me laughing until tears are streaming down my face....
Sounds like our new friend who has some issues with authority.
As for my over sensitivity, I will strive to work on that.

 

[Wolfwood]

it is probably allt hat sensitivity training they are making you boys take eh?

 

[Dcav]

Mike - with all due respect, some better punctuation would go a LONG way towards making your lengthy posts easier to read. I get a couple of sentences in, and I'm ready to rip my eyes out!

As to your "elitist" BS claim (I'll say it, since the active LEO's on this board are too polite) - SHOVE IT. Dude, cops are doing a dirty, dangerous, thankless damned job - and guys like you that run around with a chip on their shoulders should have that chip shoved where the sun don't shine. You do real good mouthing off on the net - I'd love to see you say that kind of thing to 'em to their face. Problem is, folks have gotten used to the idea that they can say whatever they want to about a cop and get away with it - but there ARE some citizens out here that still appreciate and respect them for the job they do. So in the future, if you have a specific issue with a specific cop or situation, I'll be happy to read about it and even suggest ways to resolve or get them called on the carpet if they've stepped out of bounds - but can the broad brush strokes!

An excellent post. Never had any issues with any officer(s), but then again I don't go around doing stupid shit all the time.........

 

[Texan2]

An excellent post. Never had any issues with any officer(s), but then again I don't go around doing stupid shit all the time.........

Dcav, you like most, appear to exercise common sense. there are those out there tha want to challenge authority figures every oppotunity they get. There are even some who wnat to tell cops/judges/investigators that they know their rights. The problem lies in that usually they have no idea what their rights are...or better yet, are not.

 

[APatriot]

Open carry was not even brought up, officially, in the last session. Since important issues like the parking lot law were defeated, I imagine open carry will not even get serious cnsideration, if any, this coming session.

Small victories.....

Stick to your "cut and paste" projects. "Imagination" is a terrible thing to waste....LOL

 

[mike75925]

since when are servants authority figures? if you are a public servant (judge, leo etc) you are a de facto servant. it seems either, most of you are leo's, that you have been taught not to buck the system or you have family members who are leo's. right is still right, wrong is still wrong; reguardless of who it is. the system is corrupt from it's core. it is time to replace the components to save the system. i've never really been in trouble, legally. but i see that men do not hold to the oaths they take 'with God as their witness' or 'so help me God'. i do believe in God and his wrath. so that, i do not incur more of his wrath than necessary, i intend to hold up my oaths as i took them. my oath was 'to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic' and in trying to enlighten others as to LAW, i hope i am doing just that. my license is up in 6 months, and i will drive without it, without insurance, without current registration etc. why? because it is not needed to exercise my right to travel. just as flying a flag upside down is a distress signal, i don't take my hat off during the national anthem, if i stand at all. in high school, i quit pledging allegiance to the flag. no one should have you pledge anything. especially, if you do not understand oaths and pledges. i was told to stand outside the classroom while the pledge was being administered. no problem, except, she was ignorant and chose not to ask 'why.' don't get me wrong, i see a whole lot wrong with the military as well. in san diego, where i was stationed, people were protesting in front of the courthouse. many a time i thought to, either armed or unarmed, go down in full dress to be between the cops who were hauling off peaceful demonstrators. i never did. i did not care about the consequences that would be awarded by my, less than honourable chain of command. i just thought, one will not do it. i know of the many instances in the bible where God allowed one man to do a great many things, but i did not feel God's presence with me in that. maybe, i should have asked for his help in fulfilling my oath, but i didn't. for that i am ashamed.

 

[txinvestigator]

Stick to your "cut and paste" projects. "Imagination" is a terrible thing to waste....LOL

Whew, I was afraid you were not still stalking me. I never had a stalker before, and I'd hate to lose you.

 

[txinvestigator]

since when are servants authority figures? if you are a public servant (judge, leo etc) you are a de facto servant. it seems either, most of you are leo's, that you have been taught not to buck the system or you have family members who are leo's. right is still right, wrong is still wrong; reguardless of who it is. the system is corrupt from it's core. it is time to replace the components to save the system. i've never really been in trouble, legally. but i see that men do not hold to the oaths they take 'with God as their witness' or 'so help me God'. i do believe in God and his wrath. so that, i do not incur more of his wrath than necessary, i intend to hold up my oaths as i took them. my oath was 'to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic' and in trying to enlighten others as to LAW, i hope i am doing just that. my license is up in 6 months, and i will drive without it, without insurance, without current registration etc. why? because it is not needed to exercise my right to travel. just as flying a flag upside down is a distress signal, i don't take my hat off during the national anthem, if i stand at all. in high school, i quit pledging allegiance to the flag. no one should have you pledge anything. especially, if you do not understand oaths and pledges. i was told to stand outside the classroom while the pledge was being administered. no problem, except, she was ignorant and chose not to ask 'why.' don't get me wrong, i see a whole lot wrong with the military as well. in san diego, where i was stationed, people were protesting in front of the courthouse. many a time i thought to, either armed or unarmed, go down in full dress to be between the cops who were hauling off peaceful demonstrators. i never did. i did not care about the consequences that would be awarded by my, less than honourable chain of command. i just thought, one will not do it. i know of the many instances in the bible where God allowed one man to do a great many things, but i did not feel God's presence with me in that. maybe, i should have asked for his help in fulfilling my oath, but i didn't. for that i am ashamed.

Which "militia" are you a member of?

I saw this one coming.