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    leVieux

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    Copied from my today's post elsewhere:

    INNOCENTS MASSACRED IN MEXICO

    I urge everyone to understand a few things before forming an opinion on who is at "fault" for this.

    Of course, the cartel gunmen are at proximate fault.

    But, the Mexicans rightly see the U S Government as a hypocritical facilitator of this entire sordid mess, because we don't enforce our own laws regarding users and simple possession of drugs.

    American "casual users" of "recreational illegal drugs" are the ultimate underlying CAUSE of all this.

    Our "War on Drugs" is a farcical FAILURE because of our non-enforcement allows their cash to fuel and sustain the entire "cartel" system and its associated crime epidemic.

    Indeed, this failure also causes all the cartel kidnappings, rapes, & gang murders inside Mexico, harming Mexican citizens and families.

    Our government has wasted many billions on band-aid fixes, which fail to address the problem, but allow bureaucrats to "feel good".

    We must learn to arrest our USERS, not imprison them, but fine them heavily and stigmatize them. Anything less would only perpetuate this mess.

    "Follow the money!"

    Also, recognize that this most recent happened well inside Mexico and does not warrant any U S military action against our neighbor Nation.

    My opinion; but, I lived there and helped care for the prior victims.

    leVieux
     

    Boldkharma

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    Copied from my today's post elsewhere:

    INNOCENTS MASSACRED IN MEXICO

    I urge everyone to understand a few things before forming an opinion on who is at "fault" for this.

    Of course, the cartel gunmen are at proximate fault.

    But, the Mexicans rightly see the U S Government as a hypocritical facilitator of this entire sordid mess, because we don't enforce our own laws regarding users and simple possession of drugs.

    American "casual users" of "recreational illegal drugs" are the ultimate underlying CAUSE of all this.

    Our "War on Drugs" is a farcical FAILURE because of our non-enforcement allows their cash to fuel and sustain the entire "cartel" system and its associated crime epidemic.

    Indeed, this failure also causes all the cartel kidnappings, rapes, & gang murders inside Mexico, harming Mexican citizens and families.

    Our government has wasted many billions on band-aid fixes, which fail to address the problem, but allow bureaucrats to "feel good".

    We must learn to arrest our USERS, not imprison them, but fine them heavily and stigmatize them. Anything less would only perpetuate this mess.

    "Follow the money!"

    Also, recognize that this most recent happened well inside Mexico and does not warrant any U S military action against our neighbor Nation.

    My opinion; but, I lived there and helped care for the prior victims.

    leVieux

    Bullshit. No excuse for the murder of innocent women and children. You should be outraged. If not, consider yourself desensitized. The Cartels are murderous thugs. They should be wiped from the face of the earth.
     

    Boldkharma

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    Thank God we have a President that will stand up to these low life thugs when everyone else runs away in fear.
     

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    Boldkharma

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    Back on track. This is the Family these thugs killed. The mother and her children including the twin babies. If you are not outraged I do not get you. Sit there in judgment. Say they should have never been there. It's all BS. These scumbags should and will pay.


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    leVieux

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    Bullshit. No excuse for the murder of innocent women and children. You should be outraged. If not, consider yourself desensitized. The Cartels are murderous thugs. They should be wiped from the face of the earth.

    Perhaps you should read my post again. It is an outrage and they should be hunted-down and shot.

    But

    If we seek to solve the larger problem which causes most of these horrors, we must cut-off the flow of cash.

    When young, years ago, I actually ran a South Texas federal methadone clinic for a while. Very expensive and futile.

    In more recent years, most of my hunting & fishing buddies in Cameron & Willacy Counties were L E O's. They dealt with this daily, even the Wildlife Officers.

    Four ex-sheriffs from Deep South Texas had been bought, caught, and sent to the Club Fed at Hurlburt Field on Florida's Eglin AFB.

    To stop all this, the money must be stopped ! There is no other way, but to stop it at its source!

    Doesn't matter what you think.

    leVieux
     

    Boldkharma

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    Perhaps you should read my post again. It is an outrage and they should be hunted-down and shot.

    But

    If we seek to solve the larger problem which causes most of these horrors, we must cut-off the flow of cash.

    When young, years ago, I actually ran a South Texas federal methadone clinic for a while. Very expensive and futile.

    In more recent years, most of my hunting & fishing buddies in Cameron & Willacy Counties were L E O's. They dealt with this daily, even the Wildlife Officers.

    Four ex-sheriffs from Deep South Texas had been bought, caught, and sent to the Club Fed at Hurlburt Field on Florida's Eglin AFB.

    To stop all this, the money must be stopped ! There is no other way, but to stop it at its source!

    Doesn't matter what you think.

    leVieux

    I don't need to re read your post. The "but" part always gets me. Don't make excuses for evil. There are no "buts" Call evil out so there is no doubt. Don't sit there and say but.
     

    avvidclif

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    A simple President to President back door talk. No recording, nothing. Agree on a 50mi wide path to the main HQ with no government troops. Turn off the radar. Black helicopters or Ospreys, no markings. Jam communications. Plus a few other things. Feet up 1AM.

    Trump in front of the press the next day with a funny look on his face hands out to the side, "I don't have a clue what you are talking about"
     

    Boldkharma

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    A simple President to President back door talk. No recording, nothing. Agree on a 50mi wide path to the main HQ with no government troops. Turn off the radar. Black helicopters or Ospreys, no markings. Jam communications. Plus a few other things. Feet up 1AM.

    Trump in front of the press the next day with a funny look on his face hands out to the side, "I don't have a clue what you are talking about"

    Trump's tweet was spot on earlier. If Mexico needs our help taking out these monsters, we can do it quickly and effectively.
     

    Boldkharma

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    I have heard all kind of BS tonight, from they should never have been there to conspiracy theories about the fact they are Mormon and battling drug lords. Jesus guys, what does this have to do with killing women and children? This is not what I think us Texans would believe. It really makes me sad. Nine american women and children are dead. Assassinated in Mexico.
     

    SQLGeek

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    By the way. Since we have been arguing this in the forum, Mexico has offered up a patsy responsible for the murders. Thoughts?

    The Mexican president is pretty much a puppet for the cartels. They arrested exactly who the cartel wanted arrested.

    Justice for the slaughtered innocent will not be found in this world.
     

    Big Green

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    A simple President to President back door talk. No recording, nothing. Agree on a 50mi wide path to the main HQ with no government troops. Turn off the radar. Black helicopters or Ospreys, no markings. Jam communications. Plus a few other things. Feet up 1AM.

    Trump in front of the press the next day with a funny look on his face hands out to the side, "I don't have a clue what you are talking about"
    When and where is the brief? I need a gear list too.
     
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