. . . since I finally accepted the fact that loads like the 55 grain M193 FMJ or soft point 223/5.56 in an AR won't
think he means penetrate.Won‘t what??
Something you need a stamp for.Shortgun? What's a Shortgun?
Shortgun? What's a Shortgun?
Yes, but the OP was talking about his Shotgun. Just trying some humor, thanks for the reminder.Fishkiller,
In my grandfather's time, a "shortgun" was what many people called a handgun.
(IF one looks, they will see that term in a lot of old newspaper articles.)
yours, satx
In my experience scatter guns don't really scatter much in the typical home defense ranges. My 18.5" mossberg with any type of buckshot will hold a 3" pattern to about 20 feet. Still have to aim it. It's not really point and shoot.I'm not for sure where the OP is getting his information from, or the validity of that information.
IMO, the shotgun is still the best home defensive weapon for most people. The distances they would used at within the home, ammo selections that are available, and that they don't require the same precision in aiming that rifles or pistols require.
In my experience scatter guns don't really scatter much in the typical home defense ranges. My 18.5" mossberg with any type of buckshot will hold a 3" pattern to about 20 feet. Still have to aim it. It's not really point and shoot.
I happened upon this article and found it mirroring my own shotgun usage as of late. I haven't gotten rid of my shotguns but I found I just don't use them for home defense since I finally accepted the fact that loads like the 55 grain M193 FMJ or soft point 223/5.56 in an AR won't
Most all of mine will have about a 4" to 6" pattern at 20 feet. Yes, they do need to be aimed, just that they don't need the same precision in aiming that rifles or pistols require.
If I aim center mass on a bad guy, and I am off center and hit him in the shoulder or arm with a round of buckshot, it's still going to do massive amounts of damage.
It's like shortbread flour, butter, sugar & shotgun!Shortgun? What's a Shortgun?
To be fair, it would be the same with a rifle, no?
Think of Kyles only surviving threat.
ETA: Can't compare pistol damage to shotgun damage.
Fishkiller,
In my grandfather's time, a "shortgun" was what many people called a handgun.
(My grandfather was born in Franklin County, TX on 18JAN1974.)
IF one looks, they will see that term in a lot of old newspaper articles.
yours, satx
To be fair, it would be the same with a rifle, no?
Think of Kyles only surviving threat.
ETA: Can't compare pistol damage to shotgun damage.
Your grandfather is only 46?