Or their delicate feelings get hurt if others have experiences and observations that are contrary to what they believe about something.Yes. Because people often on here don't get sarcasm or humor. They eat crayons and have little pee pees.
It doesn't matter. It's all in good fun. My filter has been off the last month.Or their delicate feelings get hurt if others have experiences and observations that are contry to ehat they believe about something.
My filter broke tears ago! I quit giving a retarded rat's turd anymore.It doesn't matter. It's all in good fun. My filter has been off the last month.
Couldn't have been me...I hadn't been born yet.You guys are the reason Fedmart stopped selling me model glue back in the early 1970s!
Another one that misses the mark. I have never said or suggested that they are the best. in fact I have said otherwise. I don’t dismiss opinions because someone disagrees with me. If you say that you’ve seen a kimber not work out of the box, I believe you. What I don’t believe is when people use an anecdotal example like that to try to convince people that those are the majority. I dismiss the idea that telling people to google “kimber 1911 problems” is any evidence of QC issues. If you had done the same google search for other 1911 manufacturers then you would either not post that or not shoot 1911s. If you don’t understand that the google search can not be an indicator of quality, but will dismiss my explanation of why, then that’s no different than what you’re accusing me of.You think Kimbers are greatest pistols made and entirely up to you, but you have dimissed any opinion that are contrary totour's. Ihave personally witnessed brand new Kimbers that would not operate out of the box.
No one is going to force you not to buy a Kimber if that is what makes you happy, but knowing that they have issues from th get go, Icould never buy one and have any measure of confidence inone.
I’m all about a good humorous insult. Just wasn’t sure if you intended to be in the line of fire or if it was accidental.Yes. Because people often on here don't get sarcasm or humor. They eat crayons and have little pee pees.
All in good humor. Fire right back. You won't hurt a thing.I’m all about a good humorous insult. Just wasn’t sure if you intended to be in the line of fire or if it was accidental.
This is true and why I'm very clear to point out my not being logical when I trade off guns sometimes. Been a few guns that could have been awesome if I sent them back to get fixed.example like that to try to convince people that those are the majority
That was my response to Taurus 1911s. If it ran you had an inexpensive handgun.Actually I have been tempting to buy a Kimber several times despite my feelings over QC. If it happens to run; they got some nice looking guns.
We are making educated guesses with the best information we have available to us.Another one that misses the mark. I have never said or suggested that they are the best. in fact I have said otherwise. I don’t dismiss opinions because someone disagrees with me. If you say that you’ve seen a kimber not work out of the box, I believe you. What I don’t believe is when people use an anecdotal example like that to try to convince people that those are the majority. I dismiss the idea that telling people to google “kimber 1911 problems” is any evidence of QC issues. If you had done the same google search for other 1911 manufacturers then you would either not post that or not shoot 1911s. If you don’t understand that the google search can not be an indicator of quality, but will dismiss my explanation of why, then that’s no different than what you’re accusing me of.
Yes. Because people often on here don't get sarcasm or humor. They eat crayons and have little pee pees.
At no point did Iever try and covnince anyone that it was a majoritybecause Ihave no idea and neither do you.Another one that misses the mark. I have never said or suggested that they are the best. in fact I have said otherwise. I don’t dismiss opinions because someone disagrees with me. If you say that you’ve seen a kimber not work out of the box, I believe you. What I don’t believe is when people use an anecdotal example like that to try to convince people that those are the majority. I dismiss the idea that telling people to google “kimber 1911 problems” is any evidence of QC issues. If you had done the same google search for other 1911 manufacturers then you would either not post that or not shoot 1911s. If you don’t understand that the google search can not be an indicator of quality, but will dismiss my explanation of why, then that’s no different than what you’re accusing me of.
I'm crying on the inside too. I have a post where I said 4th gen Glocks aren't as good as 3rd gen. Though I truly think that, I also posted that just for you. I'm hurt. I'm hurt you didn't reply and give me shit. You're slacking.
Listen, gen 4 glocks are what gave us gen 5.I'm crying on the inside too. I have a post where I said 4th gen Glocks aren't as good as 3rd gen. Though I truly think that, I also posted that just for you. I'm hurt. I'm hurt you didn't reply and give me shit. You're slacking.
There is a huge difference between making educated guesses and believing information is indicative of something it is not. Looking at the results of this thread, most poll responses have been favorable for kimber. Reading comments from owners, most have been favorable. It’s the non owners who are the most vocal about how many problems their guns have. At some point that should become a hint that the perception may not be reality. if you like other guns better, that’s cool. Nothing wrong with that. I like other guns too.We are making educated guesses with the best information we have available to us.
Because kimber isn't going to tell us how many guns have qc issues. Because there's no large organization holding mfg's to a set standard, because no group is taking statistically significant amounts of guns to determine if there are problems or not.
1911's are not unreliable guns, there is no reason why kimber should get a pass just because they make a lot of guns when glock, sig, s&w, and ruger make more pistols then kimber, yet don't have kimbers reputation.
I missed this but Havok, there's some issues with your post. Keep in mind my objective is to not tear you down. It's to point these things out.Another one that misses the mark. I have never said or suggested that they are the best. in fact I have said otherwise. I don’t dismiss opinions because someone disagrees with me. If you say that you’ve seen a kimber not work out of the box, I believe you. What I don’t believe is when people use an anecdotal example like that to try to convince people that those are the majority. I dismiss the idea that telling people to google “kimber 1911 problems” is any evidence of QC issues. If you had done the same google search for other 1911 manufacturers then you would either not post that or not shoot 1911s. If you don’t understand that the google search can not be an indicator of quality, but will dismiss my explanation of why, then that’s no different than what you’re accusing me of.
Thank you. Now I can sleep.Listen, gen 4 glocks are what gave us gen 5.
Its the homo-neaderthalensis of perfection.
Gen 3 is just ugly monkey man pistol
Again with the non owner thing. A malfunction doesn't just not happen because the person reporting it didn't pay to own the gun.There is a huge difference between making educated guesses and believing information is indicative of something it is not. Looking at the results of this thread, most poll responses have been favorable for kimber. Reading comments from owners, most have been favorable. It’s the non owners who are the most vocal about how many problems their guns have. At some point that should become a hint that the perception may not be reality. if you like other guns better, that’s cool. Nothing wrong with that. I like other guns too.
it would be interesting if several years from now, someone who knew nothing about 1911s ran across this thread while googling kimber trying to decide if they should buy a gun. I’d be curious if they would be steered toward, or away from the company. Of course a lot could change for good or bad over time. But, still would be interesting.