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Would these comments about 2A rights from Gov Abbott get your vote Nov 8th?

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  • London

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    Toddnjoyce has it right.

    The rest of you who think voting for a light democrat over an extreme democrat is a win, have already lost and you refuse to realize it.

    Keep pointing the finger and saying we're helping the other side when you're literally voting for their platform only at a slower scale of implementation at best.
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    Esky

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    No. Ain’t voting for beto, but not voting for hot wheels either. I guarantee hot wheels will do what’s most politically expedient for him when it comes to gun control.

    Remember he didn’t want it until after Phelan got HB1927 (all two pages of it) through the house and everybody thought Patrick was going to sink it in the Senate, even after scaling it up to 50+ pages and adding .05 signs and enhanced penalties for prohibited places displaying their own new sign (46.03 signage).

    Him and DP played the 2A community like a fiddle and now they both think we owe them something.
    Sadly true. There's gotta be a way we can stop having to choose the lesser of two evils, or in this case Disastrously Horribly Bad vs. Kinda Sorta OK. Don Huffines, Allen West, or Chad Prather would've been a lot better, IMHO, and I'm sad that they all three ran against the incumbent, almost guaranteeing that Abbott would get in. SMH
     

    seeker_two

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    I'm going to say something that will make some of your heads explode......

    .....maybe Texas Republicans deserve to get Beto as Governor.

    For far too long, Texas Republicans have sat on their laurels, offering platitudes and empty promises of conservative action and legislation....only to pass a pittance of their promises. And they tolerate non-conservative RINOs in their midst that go out of their way to placate their Democrat friends....as long as they keep getting the Dems' votes to keep their Speakership, committee chairs, and emergency powers. Texas Republicans will even go out of their way to slander and undermine the campaigns of ACTUAL conservative Texas Republicans to keep their spot at the power trough. Texas Republicans talk a good PR game....but they don't deliver. Worst of all....they count on the fact that they will keep getting reelected. After all, who else are conservative Texas voters going to vote for?

    But, put a lib like Beto in office.....then everything changes. There's an actual wolf in the henhouse now....a real enemy that can't be bought or sweet-talked or cajoled. He wants to turn Texas blue and sweep away every Republican in the room...RINOs included. The Faux-Publicans will try to get on his good side, but they'll end up vilified and discarded as well.

    This is when Texas voters will expect their Republicans to actually stand up and fight. And the current incumbent Republicans like Phelan don't know how. The ones that do fight for conservative values will rise up and be known for a change....and earn the respect and future loyalty of Texas voters. And then we'll see some conservative action come out of the Texas Legislature.....and, eventually, the Governor's Office.
     

    Big Green

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    He is what he is. But this way of thinking is the most asinine type/ of reasoning not to vote Republican in my opinion. Every non-Republican vote will be subject to a Democratic vote (Beto). That's exactly the reason he ended up with over a million votes in the last Senate race in this State and unfortunately why we're seeing him raise his ugly head again for the Govenor's position. We must stand firm on the lesser of evils for this State and at least vote. Let's cut the snake's head off where is rises and end it, now...... We can only hope we'll have better Republican choices for the State of Texas in the near furure......
    No, your system has gotten us the rinos we have today. They know you’ll stick with them regardless of how bad they stab you in the back. The lesser of two evils, is still evil.
     
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    Darkpriest667

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    Once Texas turns blue sadly it will never go back red. Not like in the past.

    Blue, Red, they're all the same when you look at their actions. I'm voting gold going forward and you can curse me if you want but at least they stand by what they say. Cutting government and going back to the liberty the founders believed in.
     

    cycleguy2300

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    Toddnjoyce has it right.

    The rest of you who think voting for a light democrat over an extreme democrat is a win, have already lost and you refuse to realize it.

    Keep pointing the finger and saying we're helping the other side when you're literally voting for their platform only at a slower scale of implementation at best.
    Abbot is hardly a "light democrat"

    The choice is Abbot or Francis, either one or the other. There is no "I dont like either one" option. It really is very simple, would you like Francis as the governor? If not the only option that helps prevent him from obtaining that position is to vote for his opponent, Abbot which is exactly what I will do.

    Abbot isn't perfect, I dont like his initial handling of COVID and shutting down private business etc, but do you seriously think Francis wouldn't have been down right Draconian?

    I do like how Abbot signed CC and championed the rights of the unborn. Either of those alone would get my support for reelection.

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    Once Texas turns blue sadly it will never go back red. Not like in the past.

    Texas was only blue for over 112 years before. That was a different shade of blue. Today’s blue is more like pinko commie.

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    The choice is Abbot or Francis, either one or the other. There is no "I dont like either one" option...
    Check your ballot. There’s four names and a write block.
     
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    CaliGunner

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    I think the people here who think Beto being elected might be a blessing because it might somehow "jolt conservatives" into action better be careful for what they wish for.

    Beto being elected as governor would be the death knell for the conservatives of Texas. Over, dead & done. Beto is a "California-type" Democrat running in Texas. Keep that in mind.

    Right now, there are literally millions of deep blue state dems looking to escape New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland. They are being priced out of their neighborhoods, they can't afford anything more than a shack for a house, and they are barely keeping their heads above water despite making fairly decent salaries. The COL is simply too high, and taxes in those blue areas are overwhelming. On top of that, they are looking to escape the increasing crime in those blue cities.

    Why don't they move to cheaper red areas en masse you might ask?

    Because of the "political climate" of Texas (or Idaho, or Tennessee), they hesitate to make the move. It's a culture clash for them. They may hate 2A, the pro-life movement, the "Bible Belt" and religion in general. I know, I talk to left coast people all the time, and they think I'm crazy for moving to Texas because "it's a backwards bible gun loving red neck state." Okay, fair enough. :laughing:

    But you elect a Francis Beto O' Rourke? You're basically sending a signal to every dissatisfied blue state dem to come on in, opening the flood gates for millions of those people to relocate to "cheaper" and less "crime filled" Texas. They will literally flock to the state at a rate 10x more than you've seen before. But for them, they will be okay with it because BETO is in charge, and he's like them. They will quickly erode all red areas and over turn any election integrity laws that may exist, and by the time you realize what is happening, you will never, ever get your state back. Not in your lifetime.

    The silver lining there might be that California may become a more "purple" state, but even so, I'd probably pack up and move right on to Florida, hurricanes and all because I can afford to, and it wouldn't be very hard for me.

    But some of you who have your entire lives here in Texas, family, friends, social circles, etc? All I'm saying is be careful what you wish for. Abbott may not be perfect, and his handling of COVID was not at the standard of a Desantis or Noem, but I've seen Abbott slowly change (even mimic Desantis) and he's not as bad as some people here are painting. You have constitutional carry, no "safe gun roster", all the NFA items you can buy, and probably the best gun laws in the entire country. Say good bye to all of that if Beto gets into office. It won't happen immediately, but it will happen quicker than you think.

    It's far easier to change the imperfect friend you know, than the enemy you think you know.
     

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    It's America, saddled with politicians we allowed to act like they do.
    That said, ain't about to change horses in the middle of the stream because the cinch ain't tight.
    I'll shoot the horse before I'd vote for beetoe, and I' not gonna give dims a win by not voting myself.
    It boils down to we suck at voting. Decades of career politicians and propaganda in schools have led to where we are in 2022.
     

    Tnhawk

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    It boils down to we suck at voting. Decades of career politicians and propaganda in schools have led to where we are in 2022.
    Not having a pair and standing up for the right thing at the right time on a continual basis has got us to this point. The time to have been active in choosing our leadership was months ago, not days away.
     
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    It's America, saddled with politicians we allowed to act like they do.
    That said, ain't about to change horses in the middle of the stream because the cinch ain't tight.
    I'll shoot the horse before I'd vote for beetoe, and I' not gonna give dims a win by not voting myself.
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    Tnhawk

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    I think the people here who think Beto being elected might be a blessing because it might somehow "jolt conservatives" into action better be careful for what they wish for.

    Beto being elected as governor would be the death knell for the conservatives of Texas. Over, dead & done. Beto is a "California-type" Democrat running in Texas. Keep that in mind.

    Right now, there are literally millions of deep blue state dems looking to escape New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland....

    Because of the "political climate" of Texas (or Idaho, or Tennessee), they hesitate to make the move. It's a culture clash for them. They may hate 2A, the pro-life movement, the "Bible Belt" and religion in general. I know, I talk to left coast people all the time, and they think I'm crazy for moving to Texas because "it's a backwards bible gun loving red neck state." Okay, fair enough. :laughing:

    But you elect a Francis Beto O' Rourke? You're basically sending a signal to every dissatisfied blue state dem to come on in..... they will be okay with it because BETO is in charge, and he's like them. They will quickly erode all red areas and over turn any election integrity laws that may exist, and by the time you realize what is happening, you will never, ever get your state back. Not in your lifetime....

    But some of you who have your entire lives here in Texas, family, friends, social circles, etc? All I'm saying is be careful what you wish for. Abbott may not be perfect, and his handling of COVID was not at the standard of a Desantis or Noem, but I've seen Abbott slowly change (even mimic Desantis) and he's not as bad as some people here are painting. You have constitutional carry, no "safe gun roster", all the NFA items you can buy, and probably the best gun laws in the entire country. Say good bye to all of that if Beto gets into office. It won't happen immediately, but it will happen quicker than you think.

    It's far easier to change the imperfect friend you know, than the enemy you think you know.
    A beto win will speed the invasion of these liberals, who will turn Texas into the cesspools they came from.
     

    CaliGunner

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    A beto win will speed the invasion of these liberals, who will turn Texas into the cesspools they came from.

    Zero doubt. I've seen first hand how a purple state can turn deep blue within a very short time.

    That being said, the recent polls don't tell a good story for Beto, so I'm not really worried about a Beto victory party anytime soon.

    Still, reading that some might prefer Beto running the state, on a supposed 2A forum is very, very worrying to read.
     

    Tnhawk

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    Good leadership takes more than voting for the lessor of two poor options on election day. We need become more active in the election process of those who govern us. Donations of time as well as money are needed to successfully have good leadership.
     
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