Rick Perry as POTUS.

[hkusp1]

What are everybodies thought's on perry running for president?

 

[Clockwork]

Ron Paul.

 

[matefrio]

I like the idea.

 

[Stumpy]

Shit, I'd be MUCH more willing to support him than an other candidate I've seen.

 

[Mikewood]

Which ticket is he running on? The dem or the rhino?
I can trust Obama to screw me every time. Perry is Just another neocon politico who I can't trust.
I would stand behind any right wing conservative candidate.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Ron Paul.

Ditto.

I would probably begrudgingly vote for Perry if he wins the primary though.

On a related note, I just heard on the Discovery channcel that there's about 2500 islands in the Pacific and half are uninhabited. I'm going to start looking into that if the morons around me keep putting dumbasses in office. How awesome would it be to have your own island and shoot some clays off the beach every morning. I'd call it "Texa-topia"

 

[majormadmax]

I like the idea.

Same here.

 

[IXLR8]

It will never happen...
+1 Ron Paul

 

[majormadmax]

Ron Paul will never happen...

Fixed that for ya...

First, his foreign policy sucks. He's an isolationist and wants to abandon the war on terrorism. History has taught us too many times that curling up into a ball and trying to leave the world alone doesn't work. He also wants to machete the US military budget and get rid of all our overseas bases. He's too focused on the economic aspects of the government, and doesn't see beyond the ramifications of some of his positions.

Secondly, any politician who has come out and said he wouldn't have authorized the raid that got bin Laden will never get my vote!

Lastly, he has proposed the following...

• Eliminating the Department of Education (and most federal agencies for that matter)
• Immediately withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan (that won't fly in a GOP primary)
• Withdrawing from NATO and the UN
• Opposing the Civil Rights Act of 1964
• Eliminating the Federal Reserve System

Seriously, do you think most Americans are going to support that? No way...

 

[Bigmoguls]

Ron Paul can't win. I support some of his ideas, but he'll be branded a loon by the MSM.

Perry will have a more difficult time winning than some other conservatives, I think he'll lose 1-2pts in some of the swing states just because he is from Texas and W was from Texas.

How about me?
Here is my platform

• 10% Fed Income Tax rate on 100% of earned income
• Elimination of Farm subsidies, Ethanol requirements
• Elimination of foreign aid to sanctuary nations
• Deport the illegals, prevent them from coming back
• eliminate parole for violent offenders (prison overcrowding should be a goal)
• Force every state to build 3 new nuclear reactors for power generation over the next 15 years
• Eliminate self employment tax and employee paid portion of SS for all those who want to manage their own retirement.
• Give Israel permission to fight back and win
• Repeal Obamacare and the Medicare drug plan
• implement Ryan's medicare voucher plan

What did I forget?

 

[zembonez]

A right wing politician can't win. The support of the far right just is not there in this country, in spite of the wishes of many on this forum. Most people in this country are pretty much in the center politically. We need a candidate that is the same. I know that is unpopular here, but it's the truth.

Ron Paul can't win. I like some of his ideas, but the guy is a nut.

Perry has as much chance as anybody. He sure as hell would be better than Brobama. I think the lib media will skewer him immediately if he decides to run though. It would be ugly.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Not trying to attack you personally, so please don't take this the wrong way.

Fixed that for ya...

First, his foreign policy sucks. He's an isolationist and wants to abandon the war on terrorism. History has taught us too many times that curling up into a ball and trying to leave the world alone doesn't work. He also wants to machete the US military budget and get rid of all our overseas bases. He's too focused on the economic aspects of the government, and doesn't see beyond the ramifications of some of his positions. I think you don't completely understand his foreign policy beyond the soundbytes about him. Economics IS more important than foreign military policy. Countries fail primarily because of economics; either overextended in wars or too many entitlements. Make a list of countries that have failed, and their causes, and this becomes readily apparent.

Secondly, any politician who has come out and said he wouldn't have authorized the raid that got bin Laden will never get my vote! He said he would have done it completely different from the beginning, again one soundbyte completely out of context.

Lastly, he has proposed the following...

• Eliminating the Department of Education (and most federal agencies for that matter) And...why are each of them necessary when we have redundant agencies at the state levels that actually have the Constitutional authority to exist? They're extra overhead and unnecessary.
• Immediately withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan (that won't fly in a GOP primary) I agree with you on this. You can't cut and run. I would have approached those threats differently but wouldn't immediately do anything in either. I'd beat the crap out of my subcontrators for better pricing to help the budget.
• Withdrawing from NATO and the UN The UN is a threat to our sovereignty and freedoms and is unnecessary to us. NATO I'd probably keep around.
  
• Opposing the Civil Rights Act of 1964
• Eliminating the Federal Reserve System The FED (and unnatural regulations) is the CAUSE of our off kilter cycles and eroding wealth. Even China sees it and commented that we're already defaulting through QE. Why is eliminating it bad? I think you and I studied different economic philosophies. I support free markets and not government monopolies like the FED.
  

Seriously, do you think most Americans are going to support that? No way...

I think intelligent Americans who understand economics, history and political science would vote for him. I'm not sure if there's enough of those for him to win though.

 

[majormadmax]

I've read and heard more about Ron Paul than I care to admit, I will grant you that he is much smarter than your average politician when it comes to economics but to focus solely on that and isolate the country from what's going on in the world isn't going to solve our problems. In reality, it will probably exasperate them!

And as for his bin Laden comments, when he was criticized about his comments he spun them, just like every other politician. I know what he said and that was he wouldn't have authorized the raid, then he changed his story to mitigate the backlash. That just goes to show you he is as much of a politician as any of them.

Plus, for the rest of his positions, they are too radical and would never happen despite the dreams of Paul and his followers. Getting rid of the Federal Reserve and letting the market run where it please could lead to disastrous results, you can't leave things to happenstance and no country does so.

As for history, if there is one thing that it has taught us is that withdrawing from the world stage has only led to two world wars. In this day and age, such a move would create a dilemma that would would eventually be drawn into as well; only this time we'd be behind the power curve and reactive. From a national security standpoint, that is the worst situation any country could find itself in.

But our debate is moot, as the last election proved Ron Paul doesn't have a chance. There's nothing that has happened since then that improves his odds, and he's never gonna be the Republican candidate so it's not worth arguing. But I do realize his followers are as fanatical as Mac users or Prius owners!

And hell, if he does win, then it's hookers and blow for everyone!

Cheers! M2

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

I don't get why people think we need the Fed. We've survived fine without it before.

It's the same as any other nanny state institution. People are scared of the unknown and personal responsibility...in this case financial responsibility.

Other countries also don't let their citizens have guns. That's working real well for them. We aren't any other country, we're the US. We are special. We should be leading by example. How well has the euro turned out for Europe? Same concept.

 

[majormadmax]

Well, this is a thread on Rick Perry and his presidential chances, so maybe we should return to focusing on him....

While I would probably vote for Perry over many other potential candidates, I'm not sure he's "the one" to beat Obama. There is a boatload of people throwing their hats into the ring, I think it will end up being either Michelle Bachmann or Hermann Cain. How Perry stacks up against the others running for the GOP nomination has yet to be seen, but I still contend he has as much chance as any. Time will funnel the candidates down to the frontrunners, at which point everyone should research and chose their favorite.

Cheers! M2

 

[mikeofcontex]

Rick Perry... to which country will he sell the rights to convert the Interstate Highway system to toll roads?

 

[308nato]

Governor ok ,POTUS no way.

 

[TrailDust]

At this stage of the game he's the best one of the lot IMO. If the election were held today I'd vote for Perry.

 

[Greg_TX]

I can trust Obama to screw me every time. Perry is Just another neocon politico who I can't trust.

This sentence makes no sense to me unless I read it in the context of "better the devil you know" or something like that; do you really think Perry is the worst of the two if a choice is to be made? I hate it how the Republican party makes us hold our noses to vote for whatever empty suit they think should have their turn that election, but in 2012 we must pinch tight because Obama must go. This isn't about Repubs vs. Dems or the usual ideological differences. Look at what's become of this country since 2008 and ask yourself if we can survive four more years of 'leadership' from someone who seems determined to undermine everything good about this country and instead promotes policies and people who will ruin us if given enough time. So much damage has already been done. Sorry, but if push comes to shove and Obama is a viable candidate in 2012, then we cannot afford to have ideological purity trump electability - he's got to go.

 

[XDMAR]

Go Ron Paul