Ukraine invasion

[CavCop]

I just want you to define the terms you are using.

Given your and the openly leftist publications you turn to as a references propensity for redefining terms mid argument I am not willing to assume. I don't trust communists.

I don't care who has WsMD Ukraine, Iraq, Cuba, Texas or your mom...

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Something tells me if I posted what Tucker Carlson, Fox News, OAN, and Newsmax said about the Bio Labs, it would trigger you even more.

But let’s see. I bet you won’t read it without getting emotional. Be warned, they use the term “Bio Labs”

“If you had told us just four days ago that the Biden administration was funding secret bio labs in Ukraine of all places, we would not have believed you. Yes, I don't think we're going to put that on TV. No thanks.”

Tucker: The Pentagon is lying about bio labs in Ukraine | Fox News

"Tucker Carlson Tonight" welcomed guests Tulsi Gabbard, Steven Mosher, Darren Beattie, Stephanie Nash, Royce White and Dan Holloway.

www.foxnews.com

https://www.newsmax.com/amp/world/globaltalk/russia-us-bio-labs-ukraine/2022/03/09/id/1060343/

Joe Biden's war in Ukraine designed to cover up illegal deep state operated bioweapons research facilities

As Joe Biden continues provoking a war with Russia more evidence is piling up that the entire conflict may be designed to protect U.S. military labs conducting illegal biological experiments.

www.oann.com

 

[BigRed]

I love to hear both sides. That's why I ask those with differing opinions to explain their stance.


Nothing screams Propaganda more than 'putin was afraid of NATO so he invaded Ukraine' to get closer to NATO countries. I've believed a lie before but that hogwash is just too much. If you believe that I'd like you to explain why.


Ukraine has large natural gas fields. Ukraine is closer to Europe than Russia. Russia sells natural gas to Europe. When the corrupt russian puppet government got kicked out of Ukraine, putin invaded. Putin didn't want Ukraine to be free and sell their gas to Europe. Have you been told that side of the story?

Maybe some of those russian gas companies can get hunter on their board to help them out with his industry expertise.

 

[General Zod]

What part of the TASS do you deny. Again, what part?

OMG you are fucking hilarious. The part I deny? The part where it's fucking TASS! It's a Russian government owned and run media outlet. If you're not smart enough to understand that, then there's no point in talking to you.

 

[CavCop]

OMG you are fucking hilarious. The part I deny? The part where it's fucking TASS! It's a Russian government owned and run media outlet. If you're not smart enough to understand that, then there's no point in talking to you.

When one is ignorant to only eat out of the slop they are fed, they tend to be pigs.

There is no point in talking to a person that is not open to new ideas. That’s why arguing with liberals is a waste of time. They love their slop and not 5 course meal.

 

[wiredgeorge]

US involvement in Ukraine biolabs isn't clear with lots of conflicting stories/reports. Obama DID go over there in 2014.

Report: Deleted web page documented Obama role in Ukraine biolab

by WorldTribune Staff, March 9, 2022 A June 2010 article details how Barack Obama, while serving as a U.S. senator from Illinois, was prominent in negotiations for a deal to build a level-3 bio-saf…

www.worldtribune.com

 

[ian]

Do you really think the bio labs are for cancer?

Why did the United States/Fauci have bio labs in China and Ukraine vs other countries?

Was it to skirt laws that America and NATO have?

Does that break trust and confidence with citizens who trust their Government?

Would Russia feel American Politicians were plotting against them via Ukraine? I mean if China and Russia share intelligence, they probably know more than us about the plan’s America was making with Ukraine.

Google likes to censor things, yet the TASS link is their main one when I google “Zelensky trained CIA”.

Do you not think the US is in control of Ukraine more than Zelensky, due to money, power, influence?

The two most dangerous groups in Government for America citizens are the CIA and FBI due to the power, influence and control they have.

Lying to the FBI is a crime, but they can lie to you. The CIA is probably involved in every country in the world, manipulating conflicts and installing dictators and people like Biden.

My first duty station was at Fort Ord CA 1-9 Inf 7th ID. Manuel Noriega Panama. Then 1-5 Cav 1st CD. Saddam Hussein. Then later 2-7 Cav 1st CD for Saddam, followed by Osama Bin Laden. Most evil dictators, we installed by the American CIA, and later sent our soldiers into war to fight and die. Be it Vietnam to Africa. From the 1960’s to today. We run the world if we can get our paws in that country.

The Czech Republic was probably the best foreign mission I had. I was there to train and not kill enemies we created. Same as now, I train European forces. Even Korea has been a mess all these years later, where we still have a hold… from Angola to Zimbabwe America has been part of most wars and helped start them. It’s a sad truth that should not be denied.

People who dismiss set things, are not equipped to make smart decisions. Gather all Intel and analyze it.

CIA director briefed Zelensky on US expectations for Russia’s battlefield planning | CNN Politics

CIA Director Bill Burns briefed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv last week on the US’ expectations for Russia’s battlefield planning in the spring, according to a US official and two Ukrainian sources familiar with the meeting.

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Zelensky secretly met with CIA Director Burns in Kyiv

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky secretly met with CIA Director William Burns in Kyiv last week, several outlets reported on Thursday. The two reportedly discussed the level of support that U…

thehill.com

Exclusive: Secret CIA training program in Ukraine helped Kyiv prepare for Russian invasion

As the battle lines hardened in the Donbas following Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014, a small, select group of veteran CIA paramilitaries made their first secret trips to the frontlines to meet with Ukrainian counterparts there, according to former U.S. officials.

news.yahoo.com

I'll answer your questions. Answer mine if you can.

Bio labs could have been studying the cure(more likely treatment) for cancer. Most bio labs work on developing drugs that can make 100's of million$ It takes lots of money and brilliant scientists to develop those drugs. Brilliant scientists work for less money in foreign countries. When you violently steal land and resources from a country its important to quickly steal their valuble bio lab technology.

Russia made up some BS excuse for stealing that valuable bio tech. The dumb lie Russia told was, Ukraine was working on a highly contagious bio warfare duck flu that that was going to be used a couple hundred miles away in Russia...and not spread right back to Ukraine. Russia was stupid to think anyone was going to believe that.

So bio labs in foreign countries isn't to skirt laws its to save money.

Trust? If you want to do nefarious biolab stuff and keep it secret you do it at home where you can more easily keep tabs on all the info.

I think if USA was running Ukraine you would have seen air superiority early on.

Did I miss any of your questions?

 

[ian]

When one is ignorant to only eat out of the slop they are fed, they tend to be pigs.

There is no point in talking to a person that is not open to new ideas. That’s why arguing with liberals is a waste of time. They love their slop and not 5 course meal.

Here is a 5 course meal for you.

Mostly ethnic russians live there so we have to steal it.

Mostly Nazis live there so we have to steal it.

We don't want trouble with nato so we have to invade and get closer to nato.

Corrupt Ukrainian politicians are mistreating people so our politicians have to bomb cities, displace millions, and kill 10's of thousands of them and us and steal their land.

Biolabs making a highly contagious disease spread by migrating birds to deliberately infect people down the street.

Bon appetite!

Hope you will come back and eat more when you get hungry.

 

[ian]

Maybe some of those russian gas companies can get hunter on their board to help them out with his industry expertise.

That was a mistake for sure. Ukraine thought they were getting a well connected vice presidents son from a country that knows how to collect and deliver natural gas but all they got was a crack head.

 

[Havok1]

That was a mistake for sure. Ukraine thought they were getting a well connected vice presidents son from a country that knows how to collect and deliver natural gas but all they got was a crack head.

Maybe, maybe not. The real value in having him was access to FJB/Obama.

 

[ian]

Do you have any explanation for how the Ukrainian government has treated ethnic Russians in the Donbas since 2014?


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Could you be more specific? I'm happy to discuss this with you.

You may be getting hung up on the race card. Look at the actions of the people you are asking about instead of their race.

 

[CavCop]

I'll answer your questions. Answer mine if you can.

Bio labs could have been studying the cure(more likely treatment) for cancer. Most bio labs work on developing drugs that can make 100's of million$ It takes lots of money and brilliant scientists to develop those drugs. Brilliant scientists work for less money in foreign countries. When you violently steal land and resources from a country its important to quickly steal their valuble bio lab technology.

Russia made up some BS excuse for stealing that valuable bio tech. The dumb lie Russia told was, Ukraine was working on a highly contagious bio warfare duck flu that that was going to be used a couple hundred miles away in Russia...and not spread right back to Ukraine. Russia was stupid to think anyone was going to believe that.

So bio labs in foreign countries isn't to skirt laws its to save money.

Trust? If you want to do nefarious biolab stuff and keep it secret you do it at home where you can more easily keep tabs on all the info.

I think if USA was running Ukraine you would have seen air superiority early on.

Did I miss any of your questions?

What was your question???

 

[ian]

Something tells me if I posted what Tucker Carlson, Fox News, OAN, and Newsmax said about the Bio Labs, it would trigger you even more.

But let’s see. I bet you won’t read it without getting emotional. Be warned, they use the term “Bio Labs”

“If you had told us just four days ago that the Biden administration was funding secret bio labs in Ukraine of all places, we would not have believed you. Yes, I don't think we're going to put that on TV. No thanks.”

Tucker: The Pentagon is lying about bio labs in Ukraine | Fox News

"Tucker Carlson Tonight" welcomed guests Tulsi Gabbard, Steven Mosher, Darren Beattie, Stephanie Nash, Royce White and Dan Holloway.

www.foxnews.com

https://www.newsmax.com/amp/world/globaltalk/russia-us-bio-labs-ukraine/2022/03/09/id/1060343/

Joe Biden's war in Ukraine designed to cover up illegal deep state operated bioweapons research facilities

As Joe Biden continues provoking a war with Russia more evidence is piling up that the entire conflict may be designed to protect U.S. military labs conducting illegal biological experiments.

www.oann.com

What are you big take aways from the tucker piece? Screen shot or copy paste the text that you think is important.

Watch the video you posted and give me the minute mark of what you think proves your belief and I'll point out how they tricked you.

 

[CavCop]

Here is a 5 course meal for you.

Mostly ethnic russians live there so we have to steal it.

Mostly Nazis live there so we have to steal it.

We don't want trouble with nato so we have to invade and get closer to nato.

Corrupt Ukrainian politicians are mistreating people so our politicians have to bomb cities, displace millions, and kill 10's of thousands of them and us and steal their land.

Biolabs making a highly contagious disease spread by migrating birds to deliberately infect people down the street.

Bon appetite!

Hope you will come back and eat more when you get hungry.

I am not scared or afraid to read different articles and opinions to form an opinion. I rather like seeing the different sides.

While you seem to defend out of blind loyalty, you miss the point.

 

[ian]

What was your question???

"Did I miss any of your questions?" That was my question. It's at the bottom of the post.

If you want to go back to my reply before that, I asked a couple more questions you didn't answer.

 

[ian]

I am not scared or afraid to read different articles and opinions to form an opinion. I rather like seeing the different sides.

While you seem to defend out of blind loyalty, you miss the point.

You dont seem to have a problem forming your opinion, you have a problem supporting your opinion.

 

[CavCop]

What are you big take aways from the tucker piece? Screen shot or copy paste the text that you think is important.

Watch the video you posted and give me the minute mark of what you think proves your belief and I'll point out how they tricked you.

I think that Tucker is over the top and aggressive pushing his agenda. I take what he says with a grain of salt, and add it to other reports Now cycle guy seemed triggered by the left leaning reports he claimed I posted. But the right leaning ones are just as bad. Poor guy can’t see straight and just wanted to punch. But the fact is he, like you are not wanting to accept other views, information and facts.

Take what you want from those posts and compare them to prior posts. Crying about far left, so I post far right. All show that someone was close minded and biased.

Cycle guy is the one who seemed to not want to accept things, even when multiple places reported on it.

I take it as showing his bias limits his ability to see the bigger picture.

Wag the dog. Wag the dog.

 

[CavCop]

You dont seem to have a problem forming your opinion, you have a problem supporting your opinion.

What is my opinion? That America used Ukraine?

Next you will tell me America does not interfere in elections of other countries.

I stand by my view based on different reports, from different places, that show Ukraine was used and abused by America and Russia. Don’t forget the AND RUSSIA part.

Do you deny that? That’s fine. Some Americans are getting rich off this war. Lots of money to buy more politicians. Ukraine will be a piggy bank till Europe decides they are not benefiting from it. Nice thing is I no longer fight wars, and get to profit off this war with some job security.

 

[CavCop]

You dont seem to have a problem forming your opinion, you have a problem supporting your opinion.

My replies were to cycle guy who felt article’s supporting my claim were far left. So I posted far right that have the same claims. What did I post that was FAR LEFT OR FAR RIGHT that contradicts or does not support my opinion?

I get you jumped in for a buddy, but how have I not supported my opinion? Or do you not like or accept my opinion?

 

[ian]

I think that Tucker is over the top and aggressive pushing his agenda. I take what he says with a grain of salt, and add it to other reports Now cycle guy seemed triggered by the left leaning reports he claimed I posted. But the right leaning ones are just as bad. Poor guy can’t see straight and just wanted to punch. But the fact is he, like you are not wanting to accept other views, information and facts.

Take what you want from those posts and compare them to prior posts. Crying about far left, so I post far right. All show that someone was close minded and biased.

Cycle guy is the one who seemed to not want to accept things, even when multiple places reported on it.

I take it as showing his bias limits his ability to see the bigger picture.

Wag the dog. Wag the dog.

I accept your view, think about it and respond directly to your statement. If a view makes no sense I'll ask for more information. If the person can offer no explanation for their view, cant answer simple questions, and responds with personal attacks it becomes obvious they don't know squat.

 

[ian]

My replies were to cycle guy who felt article’s supporting my claim were far left. So I posted far right that have the same claims. What did I post that was FAR LEFT OR FAR RIGHT that contradicts or does not support my opinion?

I get you jumped in for a buddy, but how have I not supported my opinion? Or do you not like or accept my opinion?

You haven't answered any of my questions about your opinion or rebuked any statements I made that contradict your view. Do you expect me to accept what you say as truth?