Am I missing something my whole life, how are they living?

[TreyG-20]

Maybe they all work from home? Seems to be a popular option these days for the tech savvy.

 

[TxStetson]

I am a worker and will always be, I bet I am scheduled for a half day at the bodyshop on the day of my funeral. Drugs might be an issue. My Sheriff says that the only meth cooks in the states are old guys that are out of the pen and cooking for their personal use. Its too cheap from Mexico. They used to catch 1-3 pounds on a bust, now its not worth their time if its less than 50 pounds of meth. All the other drugs are cheaper than ever and pouring over the border now, thanks JB. Drugs will help the lazy kids start stealing for a living.
I still think it boils down to the systematic breakdown of the family unit and our American values....values that may have gone by the wayside 20 years ago.

Which body shop are you working at?

 

[oldag]

local coffee shop well 25 min drive closed due to issues with help, other restaurants including chain adjusted their hours due to lack of help. when i was laid off the last time I was in my 50s, nobody wants older people experienced or not, 1 interview they flat out said wanted to see you. unemployment was long gone, took a job for 40% of what had been making just to get gas and some groceries sweeping up a warehouse inside and parking to set it up to open up as a business. that lasted 2 weeks. sold my truck, went through savings. laid off 3 times and the older got the longer it took to get employed in or out of the field that had been in. definitely age discrimination big time, even a job counselor told me and adjusted my resume to weed out things that said was older. agree with must be dealing to pay utilities, gas, food. know some now not hurting and taking advantage of food banks, never did that as figure there were many far worse off than we were.

Age discrimination is very real. I had hoped this had lessened in the current environment.

 

[msharley]

Age discrimination is very real. I had hoped this had lessened in the current environment.

The "Gray you're Gone" rule is a real thing....

 

[Havok1]

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OK, Thanks !

I went. . . . .

I saw. . . . .

I found nothing of interest to me.. . . .

Do folks really pay to watch 50yo botox & collagen soccer Moms do dildos ?

Lord, take me now, I must be ready !

leVieux

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Wait until you see how much people pay for jars of fart and dirty underwear!

 

[General Zod]

Maybe they all work from home? Seems to be a popular option these days for the tech savvy.

Working from home would make them employed...

 

[Guns308]

Which body shop are you working at?

D&D Collision, Abilene

 

[TreyG-20]

Working from home would make them employed...

Yes it would. I just know if I was a 19 year old computer whiz looking for a gig while in college etc... I would likely not be working in a fast food joint or anywhere retail. Most kids these day are going to be much more computer and tech savvy than any generation before them which is why they most likely look for positions in the fields that interest them. Me as a 19 year old wanted to learn mechanics and serve my country. Instead of working at McDonald's I did what was logical for my interests.

 

[Maverick44]

The unemployment rates are about what you would expect per age group. 16-24 YO are generally in high school and college, so yeah. That might make working difficult depending on their schedules or their work load for school. Notice that the vast majority over 20 are working. I think the real reason you aren't seeing people jumping at the "opportunity" to work fast food or retail jobs for major corporations is because those are some of the shittiest jobs you can have. The pay sucks, the benefits suck, the way the companies treat their employees suck, and dealing with the general public in general REALLY sucks.

https://lmci.state.tx.us/shared/PDFs/Workforce_Report.pdf

 

[benenglish]

Most kids these day are going to be much more computer and tech savvy than any generation before them...

Oddly, no.

Employers are already complaining that their youngest potential employees have no idea how to interact with the computers that businesses use. They've grown up with phones, tablets and, maybe, Chromebooks. They often can't type, can't understand a spreadsheet, can't compose a standard English business letter, and can't comprehend the organization of a filesystem.

The ones who are technically worthless are still a minority but there are enough showing up in sufficient numbers that many employers are becoming concerned.

 

[TreyG-20]

Oddly, no.

Employers are already complaining that their youngest potential employees have no idea how to interact with the computers that businesses use. They've grown up with phones, tablets and, maybe, Chromebooks. They often can't type, can't understand a spreadsheet, can't compose a standard English business letter, and can't comprehend the organization of a filesystem.

The ones who are technically worthless are still a minority but there are enough showing up in sufficient numbers that many employers are becoming concerned.

Because they have yet to learned those systems. Hence why I said are going to be. Not that they are. Yet.

But I may just be talking out of my ass. I haven't owned a computer in my entire life and failed every computer class I have ever been in. I can't even figure out how to turn on a Playstation 5, much less use one. I know how to work my phone because I need it for day to day work duties. I'm an old school hard laborer. Even though I am also a millennial.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Because they have yet to learned those systems. Hence why I said are going to be. Not that they are. Yet.

But I may just be talking out of my ass...

As someone who looks at this challenge near daily, we can’t afford to train someone how to use a web based application AND train them to be a banking or insurance professional. Especially since most of our web based applications are dual-facing. That means the employee is just taking the order from a customer that could do it themselves if they wanted to.

Think about it; nobody is trained how to use Amazon on the web or app, but they get 3.6 billion with a b unique visits annually. Imagine if they also had a phone channel instead of being solely digital. The size the call center would turn them into the largest employer in the US overnight. And sink their profits.

But my company has to train these call center workers on the specific steps of the transactions they’ll be doing. The same steps the customer would be doing on their own, without any training, if they use our .com or app channel to acquire or service one of our products. Why do we have to do that? I have no idea, except every pilot we try to train new employees differently results in them not being able to interact with the webpage efficiently. The task-based training solely builds confidence following a guided workflow without the stress of interacting with a customer. I guess that’s the value our training provides. It’s expensive though; 4-6 six weeks paid training before they go to production, then another 90 days of handholding until they can actually hit their performance targets, which are based in how long does it take an untrained customer to do the same task.

 

[Havok1]

Oddly, no.

Employers are already complaining that their youngest potential employees have no idea how to interact with the computers that businesses use. They've grown up with phones, tablets and, maybe, Chromebooks. They often can't type, can't understand a spreadsheet, can't compose a standard English business letter, and can't comprehend the organization of a filesystem.

The ones who are technically worthless are still a minority but there are enough showing up in sufficient numbers that many employers are becoming concerned.

Employers can’t have it both ways. They can either spend time training their employees, or they can require then to obtain whatever overpriced schooling beforehand and deal with the fact that they will want their compensation to reflect the costs of that.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Employers can’t have it both ways. They can either spend time training their employees, or they can require then to obtain whatever overpriced schooling beforehand and deal with the fact that they will want their compensation to reflect the costs of that.

Problem is most of those with overpriced schooling have no practical experience and are most likely in a role that doesn’t require much schooling at all. 2/3s of all jobs in American don’t require a bachelor’s degree. Those that actually do…engineering, some medical (MD, RN), and lawyers (JD) come to mind. The others just use a BA as a cut line.

 

[msharley]

As someone who looks at this challenge near daily, we can’t afford to train someone how to use a web based application AND train them to be a banking or insurance professional. Especially since most of our web based applications are dual-facing. That means the employee is just taking the order from a customer that could do it themselves if they wanted to.

Think about it; nobody is trained how to use Amazon on the web or app, but they get 3.6 billion with a b unique visits annually. Imagine if they also had a phone channel instead of being solely digital. The size the call center would turn them into the largest employer in the US overnight. And sink their profits.

But my company has to train these call center workers on the specific steps of the transactions they’ll be doing. The same steps the customer would be doing on their own, without any training, if they use our .com or app channel to acquire or service one of our products. Why do we have to do that? I have no idea, except every pilot we try to train new employees differently results in them not being able to interact with the webpage efficiently. The task-based training solely builds confidence following a guided workflow without the stress of interacting with a customer. I guess that’s the value our training provides. It’s expensive though; 4-6 six weeks paid training before they go to production, then another 90 days of handholding until they can actually hit their performance targets, which are based in how long does it take an untrained customer to do the same task.

Let's translate this to man's work.

There is a 40' stick of 30" pipe with a 3-1/2" wall, with the bevels already cut on the horses, at ground level.

It needs to go up the 5' x 8' pipe chase to the 15th floor (approximately 225') to be welded on the bottom of the existing 90 degree fitting...that is where the top joint will be...

How many 10 ton chain falls will need hanging, to accomplish this...(no way to get a crane big enough to do this work, anywhere near the pipe chase, as it is betwixt the boiler and the turbine bldg.)

Questions that need answered.

How much does the pipe weigh?

How many 3 ton falls are on hand? In order to hang the 10 ton chain falls?

How many "pad eyes" need to be welded to the stick of pipe? In order to accomplish the lift?

Where do they need to be located?

What are the welding specifications for the attachments? What are the inspection criteria?

What needs doing to transition the pipe from horizontal...to vertical?

What are the safety requirements to prevent the stick from contacting the 4100V bus bar?

Where do the top 10 ton chain falls need to be hung? In order to insure the ability to achieve an "X-Ray" fit up?

Just basic Steamfitting.

 

[msharley]

Problem is most of those with overpriced schooling have no practical experience and are most likely in a role that doesn’t require much schooling at all. 2/3s of all jobs in American don’t require a bachelor’s degree. Those that actually do…engineering, some medical (MD, RN), and lawyers (JD) come to mind. The others just use a BA as a cut line.

Lawyers?

Gay porn stars.

Remember that lawyer yuppy that Cheney blasted in the puss with a shotgun?

What did he do?

Like every lawyer alive...right on National TV ...he got on his knees and proceeded to orally gratify Dick Cheney.

(most likely begging him to sodomize him some more...the whole time)

 

[toddnjoyce]

Let's translate this to man's work.
…
Just basic Steamfitting.

No degree required. Is that all unsupervised apprenrice work or are there journeyman and masters around on that job, too?

Hazard to guess a combination of all…apprentice pay is likely 2.5x what a teller makes, too.

 

[msharley]

Somehow? I don't think the Power House or the Contractor would allow unqualified folk to do this function.

Anyone here hazard a guess at the weight of the pipe?

 

[Axxe55]

Lot of that, going around....

seems to be the prevailing mentality after the pandemic was over with!

 

[TxStetson]

D&D Collision, Abilene

I have the 2nd of 3 vehicles at Accent right now.