The SLIDE FIRE

[midnightyell]

I'm gonna pistol whip the next person that says "shenanigans"

Hey Farva what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?


It's all Tapatalk or the iPhone's fault.

 

[stx kid]

Oh you mean shenanigans?

 

[orbitup]

grrrr

 

[FlashBang]

bunch of Hooligans...

 

[orbitup]

bunch of Hooligans...

That's it. I couldn't remember.

 

[Acera]

That's a big bastard. (if it's the full length one) Too bad they don't really work well prone or on a bi-pod. Well, actually it might work on a bi pod if it's one that allows some back and forth movement.

I'm wondering if you could slap one on this.

That would be a wild ride. Definitely need a beta drum.

Probably not, it's not all about the stock moving it's also about the precise position of the trigger finger block which is designed for an AR. I will not work on just any rifle that an AR style stock will fit on. Lot more to it than most people realize, it replaces the stock and the pistol grip. Now if that M1's stock/pistol grip/trigger are exactly in the same relation to each other as an AR is, it might work.

 

[ftw13]

 

[Marlowe]

Not even close. My 9mm will do 900-1000 rpms. (faster than an MP5) You see a fountain of brass coming out the ejection port for about 2 seconds. Try that with your tigger finger.

You do know that bump firing existed for at least a day or two before this slide-fire bunch decided to capitalize on it, right?

 

[FlashBang]

You do know that bump firing existed for at least a day or two before this slide-fire bunch decided to capitalize on it, right?

And gold existed for millions of years before someone capitalized on it..... What's your point?

The Slide Fire allows you to have controlled and accurate rapid fire capabilities whereas bump firing from your belt loop does not.
The advantage of suppressive fire capabilities is a well documented and proven technique. What the Slide Fire does is to bring this capability into the affordability of civilian gun owners who desire it.

 

[TXARGUY]

I put one on a WASR just for fun and it delivers just that; lots of fun! It is completely legal in Texas and no, what it does cannot be accomplished with just a finger. Not in a controlled fashon anyway. If you are putting it on an AR make sure your barrel is spec'd to handle rapid fire because you will quickly 'shoot out' a barrel that is not.

 

[FlashBang]

I put one on a WASR just for fun and it delivers just that; lots of fun! It is completely legal in Texas and no, what it does cannot be accomplished with just a finger. Not in a controlled fashon anyway. If you are putting it on an AR make sure your barrel is spec'd to handle rapid fire because you will quickly 'shoot out' a barrel that is not.

100% agree about the AR barrel. I use mine on the AR's as well as the AK for 3 round bursts and don't just dump mags for the sake of dumping rounds. With 3 round bursts you have great control and accuracy. I am thinking of putting one on my AES-10B heavy barrel with 75 round drum as well.

 

[Marlowe]

And gold existed for millions of years before someone capitalized on it..... What's your point?

The Slide Fire allows you to have controlled and accurate rapid fire capabilities whereas bump firing from your belt loop does not.
The advantage of suppressive fire capabilities is a well documented and proven technique. What the Slide Fire does is to bring this capability into the affordability of civilian gun owners who desire it.

You do realize that the slide fire is nothing but "bump fire for dummies", right? Do it right with just your finger, and you can go cyclic just like anybody that wants to buy a soon-to-be-banned gimmick stock..

 

[TXARGUY]

Is that the same as bump firing? Don't waste your money or ammo...

Haters gonna hate

 

[FlashBang]

Have any citations or evidence of either of your claims? Or is this just your opinion?
Being able to "go cyclic" is not quite the same as controlled accurate fire.

 

[bigjohn]

any body heard of the bumpski? basically an aluminum slidefire... Thoughts?

 

[FlashBang]

The Bumpski appears to be well built, albeit more expensive. I believe the only attachment they do is to the AR platform, but they are supposed to make them for AK and possibly others. Just a matter of choice I suppose.

 

[Marlowe]

Have any citations or evidence of either of your claims? Or is this just your opinion?
Being able to "go cyclic" is not quite the same as controlled accurate fire.

The slide fire is, in actuality, absolutely nothing but a piece of plastic that replaces much of the learning curve for bump firing. There's methods of "unassisted" bump firing that are just as "controlled" as any plastic gimmick-enhanced method; it's not all just the redneck with a belt loop method.... If you're good at bump firing with the gun in a standard "aimed" position, you aren't going to improve a bit by dropping a bunch of money on the latest geegaw... It may be an improvement upon some of your more crude methods, but it's not an improvement on the basic process of bump firing: it's still the same trigger, the same action, the same physics.

 

[TXARGUY]

any body heard of the bumpski? basically an aluminum slidefire... Thoughts?

Yep. Other than being ugly it's basically the same thing. I think they are actually in a court battle right now.

 

[FlashBang]

The slide fire is, in actuality, absolutely nothing but a piece of plastic that replaces much of the learning curve for bump firing. There's methods of "unassisted" bump firing that are just as "controlled" as any plastic gimmick-enhanced method; it's not all just the redneck with a belt loop method.... If you're good at bump firing with the gun in a standard "aimed" position, you aren't going to improve a bit by dropping a bunch of money on the latest geegaw... It may be an improvement upon some of your more crude methods, but it's not an improvement on the basic process of bump firing: it's still the same trigger, the same action, the same physics.

I find the difference in the ability to control the weapon much better with the Slide Fire. Using only your finger while in a shouldered position and bump firing results in no grip, resulting in less weapon control. With the Slide Fire the grip remains on your hand, resulting in better control of the weapon. Didn't you find the grip remaining in your hand to be better for controlling the weapon when you used it?

Same trigger, same action, same physics, all agreed... And that is why it will not be banned in my, and so far the ATF's, opinion.

 

[FlashBang]

Yep. Other than being ugly it's basically the same thing. I think they are actually in a court battle right now.

Bumpski paid the developer of the Akins device for rights to use his patent, and then sued Slide Fire. I don't think the suit will go very far and would expect it to get kicked out if Slide Fire has decent Attorneys.