attention people who do not understand free market.

[TXARGUY]

Just today at the show in Dallas I sold a basic M4 style AR with A2 stock and handguards without BCG or mags for $1,750 cash. I didn't gouge anyone. I would have been stupid to sell it for any less. Do I feel bad? NO.

 

[txinvestigator]

Shue is a hypocrite that wants to dictate what others do. Then he violates the rules here and calls me, in public, a jackass. He showed his true colors by sending me a PM criticizing me about my auction. He is welcome to ignore it, but he can FO if he thinks he is going to chastise me about ANYTHING.

Shue also fails to understand the market. All the BS about selling to friends is just that, B.S.. I suspect I have something he wants. Hey Shue, I forbid you to buy anything I sell. Also, stop sending me private messages. You will be reported.

 

[Rentz]

Just today at the show in Dallas I sold a basic M4 style AR with A2 stock and handguards without BCG or mags for $1,750 cash. I didn't gouge anyone. I would have been stupid to sell it for any less. Do I feel bad? NO.

Yeah if someone wanted to buy my home built ar for 1700 I'd be crazy to say no.
i don't like the high prices and asking 2k for something that realistically isn't worth that, but if people are willing to pay the price I certainly understand it. And I don't think items would be listed at these prices if people weren't buying them.

i'd say if there's any real beef to be had its with the people actually paying these prices which sets the market not those following the market when selling items

 

[Schue]

Shue is a hypocrite that wants to dictate what others do. Then he violates the rules here and calls me, in public, a jackass. He showed his true colors by sending me a PM criticizing me about my auction. He is welcome to ignore it, but he can FO if he thinks he is going to chastise me about ANYTHING.

Shue also fails to understand the market. All the BS about selling to friends is just that, B.S.. I suspect I have something he wants. Hey Shue, I forbid you to buy anything I sell. Also, stop sending me private messages. You will be reported.

Again with the personal attacks? I followed the rules and sent you a PM instead of posting in your FS thread. You sir resorted to name calling and told me to F myself. It appears that you are calling me out for not following the rules, but you broke said rules.

 

[mitchntx]

I'm stopping now because this is going to get ugly.

Hey ... I was right!

 

[Schue]

Schue - I have a question for you. If you had a rifle that other people were selling for $2500, would you say "Hey fellas, I want to be a nice guy and sell it to you for half the going price."?
Or if you bought something 25 years ago, would you only sell it at the price you bought it for? If you sold it at current market price, would that then make you a gouger?

I would not take advantage of my friends during a "gun scare". As I posted, I do have an AR for sale at current market value that I will not post here out of respect for my TGT friends. An item that is 25 years old that has gained market and collection value is not the same thing as an overpriced AR-15 at present.

 

[1slow01Z71]

Reminds me of the guys on m4carbine and arfcom begging to buy lowers but only want to pay msrp. Theyve gotta have it but they want people who have the items to basically donate to charity. Kinda funny to me.

 

[Bithabus]

If you are so stupid that you wait until the panic to buy what you need you deserve to get gouged. These are the same people who will clog the highway with out of fuel and broken down vehicles after SHTF, on the way to live in the woods.

 

[Younggun]

I don't like the current pricing and will not pay it. That said, I'm not pissed at the price guys are asking either.

I honestly couldn't put a price on my AR right now because I know there is a chance I may not be able to replace it.

The price increase is not only because demand has risen also because the supply could cease to exist.

So what is the price tag of something you like having but may not be able to replace. I doubt I could let my AR go for less than 5 grand. It's nothing special but it's the one I have and I want to continue having it. Even at that price I may still decline the sale.

Keep in mind you are buying something that the seller may never be able to get back, even if the chances of that are slim.

 

[Anger]

I completely understand free market.
And today, sellers understand who the target market is ... the panic buyer.

I would respectfully disagree. There are a lot of level headed younger first buyers. They just decided to buy, out of their own free will, at a bad point in the supply/demand ratio and they're ok with that. I wouldn't blanket call it panic. I completely understand their logic. If I wasn't all set with my toys, I could very easily be one of them, within a reasonable price range. $2000 for an $800 rifle, no. But $1500 or $1600 for an $1100 rifle, sure, I can see people justifying that logic and I could have very easily been one of them.

 

[Younggun]

I just looked at an AK the LGS is selling on consignment for $1200 and the. Had the owner offer me $10/box of 7.62x39 that I mentioned having.

 

[Rentz]

I would respectfully disagree. There are a lot of level headed younger first buyers. They just decided to buy, out of their own free will, at a bad point in the supply/demand ratio and they're ok with that. I wouldn't blanket call it panic. I completely understand their logic. If I wasn't all set with my toys, I could very easily be one of them, within a reasonable price range.

Fair poi t and I resemble it, been shopping ak's and drug my feet now the price has gone up...but not as bad

 

[Bithabus]

I would respectfully disagree. There are a lot of level headed younger first buyers. They just decided to buy, out of their own free will, at a bad point in the supply/demand ratio and they're ok with that. I wouldn't blanket call it panic. I completely understand their logic. If I wasn't all set with my toys, I could very easily be one of them, within a reasonable price range.

The only difference between 2 weeks ago and now is panic.

 

[Anger]

The only difference between 2 weeks ago and now is panic.

No one I saw today was panicked. Most people seemed pretty calm.

 

[M. Sage]

I think the point is on both sides ... a seller jacking the price to an UNREAL market value or selling at REAL fair market value to trusted members here or a circle of friends.

I have sold to a couple long-time friends over the last couple weeks at prices I paid 6 months ago and did so because in casual conversation they told me they couldn't find any. I sold a CMMG lower and PSA upper "frankengun", PMags and 500 rounds of 556 to a buddy for $750 who had promised his son an AR for Christmas after returning from Iraq. Otherwise, he was looking at $3K.



I'm stopping now because this is going to get ugly.
There are clearly two POVs here. I respect those that want to cash in while they can and I would hope those that do, would respect my POV.

Different situation. I'd help out a friend who asked me. This isn't going up for any of my friends, though. They all know they can ask and I'll hook them up.

 

[Bithabus]

No one I saw today was panicked. Most people seemed pretty calm.

Paying $1500 for a DPMS or $40 for a pmag indicates panic. The only reason to pay that much is fear that in a few months you will be stuck with nothing. You say a lot of younger buyers coincidentally chose the past 2 weeks to get into firearms, but I don't buy it.

 

[Designated]

I was just hoping that TGT would remain "clean" during this storm. I truly think that this is the best gun forum on the Internet because the BS here is very minimal. I was really surprised when I saw these ridiculous prices from TGT core members. I have an AR for sale on other forums for current market prices, but I did not advertise it here because I would never "rip off" a TGT member. I guess I am old fashioned........

You were trying to protect the purity of a Internet forum? The fact that you admitted you are selling a AR at the current rate destroys any credibility of your "old fashioned" ways.

 

[Anger]

Paying $1500 for a DPMS or $40 for a pmag indicates panic. The only reason to pay that much is fear that in a few months you will be stuck with nothing. You say a lot of younger buyers coincidentally chose the past 2 weeks to get into firearms, but I don't buy it.

So we disagree great. No problem. apparently you don't think the panic is merited? I for one have had many sleepless nights lately about the direction this country is headed. That's a reality to me and may others. Panic or new buyers or what ever u want to call it. And I'm thinking $1500 for a sig quality rifle, not dmps.. and $25 for pmag.

 

[drawl]

u don't NEED one, so why buy it at a bad time, price wise, hmm? There's millions and milllions of such rifles, and not 1000 guys are ever going to put up a FIGHT with one, so there's plenty to go around. There's far smarter, more effective ways of resisting tyrants, that dont require any gun at all, or at most, a ccw pistol might be useful, if you are wearing concealed armor and have AP ammo for that pistol, and if you are TRULY skilled/fast with it. Otherwise, you will just be shot down at the sigth of your having a gun, any gun.

 

[Younggun]

I mean this in the nicest way possible.

Please stop talking, you are embarrassing yourself.