Who do I contact about this "no weapons" sign?

[ZeR0BuG]

Someone want to test this out for us?

 

[Acera]

How can AISD file criminal charges if you have a CHL and it's legal to have in the car? You could certainly get fired if you were an employee but I'm not familiar with a law that would allow them to file criminal charges unless they knew and asked you to leave and you didn't, then it would be trespassing. Anybody got a link or reference to a law that says the school can file against you?

I don't think anyone on here is saying that they could file criminal charges. However they are perfectly capable of picking up a phone and dialing 911, those that respond to that call will probably have that ability and inclination to do so.

(Showing your CHL will probably get you sent on your way, but if you don't have one, I bet you get further attention.)

 

[Charlie]

If you have a CHL you can have your weapon on you, or in your car, on the premises of AISD regardless of wether or not you have a student there.
I don't see that sign as barring anything and they can shove their policy, it doesn't hold the weight of law as far as criminal charges go.

That's what I'm thinkin' but if I'd like to see an official reference from someone who thinks it's criminal.

 

[Younggun]

I don't think anyone on here is saying that they could file criminal charges. However they are perfectly capable of picking up a phone and dialing 911, those that respond to that call will probably have that ability and inclination to do so.

First, you are concealed so there should ny be anyone who knows you have a weapon.

Second: what charges could be filed against you. What laws have been broken?

 

[RetArmySgt]

As a school district employee they can keep you from keeping a weapon in your car or face termination or criminal charges. Regardless of CHL.

AISD Board Policy- http://pol.tasb.org/Policy/Download/1146?filename=GKA(LEGAL).pdf

Pages 3-5

Local Board Policy- http://pol.tasb.org/Policy/Download/1146?filename=GKA(LOCAL).pdf

Policy FO refers to student discipline.

Did Texas not pass a law a few years ago to keep employers from forbidding the storage of firearms in your car?

 

[Charlie]

As a school district employee they can keep you from keeping a weapon in your car or face termination or criminal charges. Regardless of CHL.

AISD Board Policy- http://pol.tasb.org/Policy/Download/1146?filename=GKA(LEGAL).pdf

Pages 3-5

Local Board Policy- http://pol.tasb.org/Policy/Download/1146?filename=GKA(LOCAL).pdf

Policy FO refers to student discipline.

I'm referring to the part highlighted regarding criminal charges from the above post (assuming we are still talking about state laws).

 

[stx kid]

Did Texas not pass a law a few years ago to keep employers from forbidding the storage of firearms in your car?

Yah, are we not protected by the castle doctrine?

 

[Charlie]

Yah, are we not protected by the castle doctrine?

My understanding is (from the best of my knowledge) that it is legal if you have a chl. But I've not seen the statutes indicating that.

 

[Younggun]

Yah, are we not protected by the castle doctrine?

Think he was referring to MPA.

 

[RetArmySgt]

This one.

Governor Rick Perry recently signed into law Senate Bill 321 prohibiting public and private employers in Texas from banning guns from employee parking lots. The law takes effect September 1, 2011.

Under the law, an employer may not prohibit an employee who holds a license to carry a concealed handgun from storing it in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area provided for employees. The law makes similar provisions for storing ammunition.

 

[Younggun]

The board policy prohibits weapons on premises, then refers back to the legal section.

As defined in the legal section and in state law the "premises" is inside the building or in an area where a sporting event is taking place.

 

[majormadmax]

But Texas is an "At Will" employment state, so the school board has every right to dismiss an employee for any reason as long as it is not in violation of Federal law (e.g. discrimination).

And no reason has to be given for the dismissal.

 

[Younggun]

But Texas is an "At Will" employment state, so the school board has every right to dismiss an employee for any reason as long as it is not in violation of Federal law (e.g. discrimination).

And no reason has to be given for the dismissal.

I won't argue with that.

Just pointing out that it is not, to my knowledge, a criminal offense.

 

[benenglish]

I don't give two shits about AISD policy...

Neither do I. But the OP, breakingcontact, asked who to contact to get the sign changed. Since the sign was posted pursuant to AISD policy, if he wants to get it changed then AISD is the entity that he should contact.

 

[Charlie]

I say leave it alone. If they change it I'd bet it would be worse. Can they put a 30.06 sign up and have it pertain to "premises"? I don't think so but...........

 

[ZeR0BuG]

The parking lot law specifically excludes schools IIRC.

 

[Charlie]

The parking lot law specifically excludes schools IIRC.

Work with me 'cause I'm slow. What exclusions are you talking about?

 

[breakingcontact]

If its factually inaccurate. It should come down.

 

[Charlie]

If its factually inaccurate. It should come down.

I agree. It shouldn't have gone up in the first place. After a career in public school administration working with school boards, and committees, and superintendents, etc., I couldn't even imagine they would get it correct! Most of the decisions (not all) usually make perfect sense to them.............and to them alone, and is comically stupid to parents, students, teachers, and campus administrators. Don't get me started..........

 

[ZeR0BuG]

Sec. 52.062. EXCEPTIONS. (a) Section 52.061 does not:
	(1)authorize a person who holds a license to carry a
	concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
	who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, or who lawfully
	possesses ammunition to possess a firearm or ammunition on any
	property where the possession of a firearm or ammunition is
	prohibited by state or federal law; or
	(2) apply to:
	(A)a vehicle owned or leased by a public or
	private employer and used by an employee in the course and scope of
	the employee's employment, unless the employee is required to
	transport or store a firearm in the official discharge of the
	employee's duties;
	(B) a school district;
	(C)an open-enrollment charter school, as
	defined by Section 5.001, Education Code;
	(D)a private school, as defined by Section
	22.081, Education Code;