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  • M. Sage

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    Like I said on Facebook, sociopaths are very good at seeming like good people. Doesn't make them less evil.

    Background checks to protect us from liability? That doesn't even make a little sense.
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    Chirpy

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    Acevedo is a millionaire rat run out of the CHP

    http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/1003328.html

    By John Hill - jhill@sacbee.com
    Published 1:51 pm PDT Tuesday, June 10, 2008

    The California Highway Patrol has agreed to a legal settlement of almost $1 million with a former chief who made an unwelcome bid for commissioner and blew the whistle on activities he considered improper.

    The CHP will pay $995,000 to Art Acevedo, now the police chief of Austin, Texas, according to the agreement released Tuesday.

    The settlement of Acevedo's lawsuit is on top of more than $600,000 in legal fees the CHP has paid to defend itself in legal actions arising from Acevedo's treatment.

    "I'm glad to be putting this behind me," Acevedo said in an interview this afternoon.

    He credited CHP Commissioner Joe Farrow for "showing the leadership" to end the long-running case. The CHP did not comment on the case, except to refer to a statement in the settlement to which the two sides agreed.

    "The settlement does not represent any admission of fault on either side," the statement says. "It does allow both parties to move forward and put the potential of protracted litigation and escalating costs behind them."

    The case began when Acevedo bucked the CHP establishment in 2004 by applying for the top job when then-Commissioner Dwight Helmick was considered vulnerable. Around the same time, Acevedo sought to expose a pension-spiking plan that would allow officers past the mandatory retirement age of 60 to benefit from a pay hike.

    In January, the State Personnel Board agreed with Acevedo that the CHP retaliated against him because of his whistle-blowing. It found that the CHP trumped up disciplinary charges against him, tainted his promotional exam and used other means to try to discredit him.

    The CHP's behavior "was designed to cause maximum stress, embarrassment and damage to (Acevedo's) reputation, and was particularly egregious," an administrative law judge wrote.

    As part of the settlement released Tuesday, the CHP agreed to drop its appeal of the State Personnel Board action, except for one chief's challenge of a 30-day suspension.


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    srstaff

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    What are the chances of a true conservative (or even a moderate who happens to truly support 2A) getting hired to the very political position of police chief, in the very liberal city of Austin? Ya right.
     

    V-Tach

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    Is he really a staunch 2nd A supporter? Probably not.......Is he slick with words like a politician? Probably so......

    I didn't read into Alan's post that he believes everything the man said, but that he was commited to his personal views and would not waiver. Something that can be said of many here btw, and is a noble trait, no matter which side you come in on imho.

    In any case, it would not serve Alan well to bash him publicly here....

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    I have a hard time believing there aren't a lot of APD officers that severely dislike the guy. I remember a year or two ago, an OIS on Riverside at an apartment complex. An officer shot and killed a guy. Of course, as usual, because the guy was black it meant it had to be because the LEOs were racist. :rolleyes: It was a big ordeal in the media. Local public crying out that it was unnecessary and all sorts of other nonsense. Acevedo seemed to be weighing whether to throw the officer to the dogs or not, as opposed to determining what the facts showed. In reality, the dash cam footage was clear cut. As soon as officers roll up, the guy charges straight at them firing. This should have taken all of 5 minutes, dash cam footage released immediately (after review to get all the facts), and the case dismissed. Instead, I seem to remember this going on for several weeks, with this officer's career seemingly hanging in the balance. All because of politics.

    I don't care how nobly someone may support their position. When they're dead wrong, and when their position is to infringe upon my basic human rights, I cannot have any respect for a person like that.

    As others have said numerous times, actions speak louder than words. We've seen plenty of actions from Acevedo to know exactly what he's about.

    Anyone remember one particular gun show being forced to close in Austin, 3 years ago, under the coercion of APD and the BATFE? In that case you literally had local and federal LE coercing a private property owner into disallowing a gun show to be held on their property.


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    Sec. 229.001. FIREARMS; EXPLOSIVES. (a) Notwithstanding any other law, including Section 43.002 of this code and Chapter 251, Agriculture Code, a municipality may not adopt regulations relating to:
    (1) the transfer, private ownership, keeping, transportation, licensing, or registration of firearms, ammunition, or firearm supplies;

    In that case, we didn't have a local government actually creating a law. We had a police department attempting to coerce a private business owner, when the PD's desired outcome was clearly in violation of the Local Government Code.
     

    biglucky

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    PS The Supreme Court has ruled that the 2nd can have reasonable restrictions, I am pretty sure.

    TXI, I respect you but this comment is way out there.. I would love for you to show me where in the constitution the power to change the constitution is granted to the Supreme Court instead of through the amendment process. The Supreme Court has been as much of a problem and as out of control as the other branches of government in the last 100+ years granting itself with powers that were not allowed to it. We continue to move farther and farther away from our republic it is sickening.
     

    Randy45

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    We never had turn in guns for cash before Acevedo started here. Just another attempt to take away guns from people. It plays on those who are lower income and may see this as chance to help their family out but they "willingly" give up ownership of their firearms. Once again the man ain't to be trusted......
     

    Shuutr

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    I don't believe a word of his PR front. He has a lot of California tendencies. I understand from a big city chief ( which is completely a politician by the nature of the position) guns are a tactical equation. The fewer guns the public has, the less likely they'll be used against officers and the easier the public is to maintain control of in panic situations. Of course from a gun owner (chl holder) perspective fewer guns equates to unarmed victims.

    On a personal note, I know that he fired a cop involved in a shooting that had a great record even though they no-billed the cop and there was zero public pressure to fire the cop. He said the officer was untrainable. I think it was part politics and part he didn't like the answers given during the investigation. I find it hard to believe an intelligent person is untrainable. Even if that is the case, there are duties on the force that can minimize the exposure to situations that could lead to the use of firearms. Firing an officer effects life plans.

    Acevedo needs to move on. This city has some real problems and they don't start with PR work.
     

    IXLR8

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    There was a very easy litmus test available. Ask him if he would not mind signing your Form 1 since he is a 2nd amendment supporter, and you are a law abiding citizen....
     

    London

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    I don't care how nobly someone may support their position. When they're dead wrong, and when their position is to infringe upon my basic human rights, I cannot have any respect for a person like that.

    Hell yes. I'm supposed to respect someone for adamantly trying to take my freedom away? If anything I have less respect for you the stronger that position is.

    Both Hitler and MLK were excellent defenders and advocates for their completely contrary positions. Should we give equal amounts of respect to both?

    Alan- you are one cool, smart dude, and I still respect the Hell out of ya. But Acevedo needs to get his apparatchick ass back to California. Even your endorsement won't make me like the guy!
     

    London

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    Anyone remember one particular gun show being forced to close in Austin, 3 years ago, under the coercion of APD and the BATFE? In that case you literally had local and federal LE coercing a private property owner into disallowing a gun show to be held on their property.

    There was also that time he threatened to illegally arrest anyone legally OCing long arms for a pro-gun demonstration.
     

    Mexican_Hippie

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    TXI, I respect you but this comment is way out there.. I would love for you to show me where in the constitution the power to change the constitution is granted to the Supreme Court instead of through the amendment process. The Supreme Court has been as much of a problem and as out of control as the other branches of government in the last 100+ years granting itself with powers that were not allowed to it. We continue to move farther and farther away from our republic it is sickening.

    X2. Supreme court is just as jacked up as the other two branches. They've made plenty of mistakes.
     

    ATX_Shawn

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    I haven't read this whole thread, just the first page. But I want to say that I too have meet Acevedo, same time I met Greg Hamilton. IMO, Acevedo is a politician through and through... I don't doubt he is a good man (i think most men are good), but I wouldn't trust anything he, or any other politician says.
     

    txinvestigator

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    TXI, I respect you but this comment is way out there.. I would love for you to show me where in the constitution the power to change the constitution is granted to the Supreme Court instead of through the amendment process. The Supreme Court has been as much of a problem and as out of control as the other branches of government in the last 100+ years granting itself with powers that were not allowed to it. We continue to move farther and farther away from our republic it is sickening.

    Are you saying the Supreme Court does NOT interpret the constitution and make binding decisions on what is and is not constitutional?

    And I am out there?

    So when they ruled the law against homosexual conduct in Texas unconstitutional, they were not allowed to do that? The entire system of challenging laws up to the supreme court is just wrong and not allowed? Is that what you are telling me?
     
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