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negative... Antifa are communists. The only reason why they are "anti-fascist" is because fascism is competition to their preferred totalitarian regime. Look up their roots in the interwar period in Europe.
Sorry for interrupting your white power party
Alt-right is just another way for the leftists to call someone racist. The label is pretty meaningless as it's applied to basically anyone who isn't a leftist or left leaning establishment Republicans. A lot of people are sick of the childish name calling and will assume any pejorative the left hurls at them and re-brand it as their own. That includes white supremacy groups. Those groups certainly aren't coalescing; they can't even agree on which white people are best. ...which is ridiculous because people of pictish decent are obviously the best
What alt-right isn't is a movement. It's a meme. Jordan Peterson has described it as collective satire.
i keep trying to gather the energy to discuss whether or not labels are meaningless.
I don't believe it's as cut and dry as some like to make it, nor do I believe labels carry as much power as some claim. And the answer to whether or not labels have meaning will be very dependent on whether or not it's an individual bases or collective, as well as if the discussion is on the power of words in a substantive or social/ideological measurement.
I don't believe it's as cut and dry as some like to make it, nor do I believe labels carry as much power as some claim. And the answer to whether or not labels have meaning will be very dependent on whether or not it's an individual bases or collective, as well as if the discussion is on the power of words in a substantive or social/ideological measurement.
Guys like Paul Joseph Watson and Bill Whittle are folks whose opinions I value AND who I do NOT believe lie within the bozo sliver of the far right of the alt-right. However, the left certainly seems to feel that those two are "alt-right" and belong lumped in with the rest so that they can be ignored.
I've said many times that the BLM is founded on a lie and whether founded on a mentality of violence, or invaded by those who promote violence, anyone who believes in peaceful protest should call them out for it and leave the organization.
I feel the same about the alt right. Whether you want to believe it was a movement rooted in white supremacy or a movement that white nationalist have latched on to, it should be left to rot. Claiming "the left will label me anyways so I might as well march with them" only strengthens the argument that conservatives are ok with white nationists. Doesn't matter how you feel about them or if the left is tossing everyone in to the nazi basket, you are providing supporting evidence by ignoring the reality of it.
I feel the same about the alt right. Whether you want to believe it was a movement rooted in white supremacy or a movement that white nationalist have latched on to, it should be left to rot. Claiming "the left will label me anyways so I might as well march with them" only strengthens the argument that conservatives are ok with white nationists. Doesn't matter how you feel about them or if the left is tossing everyone in to the nazi basket, you are providing supporting evidence by ignoring the reality of it.
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It seems that now the counter movement is to call antifa, blm, etc. alt-left and see how they like it.
Seems like some are saying that that is a thing now. Cernovich was mentioning it, not that I watch him a lot.
Seems like some are saying that that is a thing now. Cernovich was mentioning it, not that I watch him a lot.
That's the problem dealing with the left and their sophistry. To them everything is "fluid" and there is no rational meaning. Trying to have a rational discussion about it is futile. Once you realize it's not possible to actually be rational about it, then you can get back to what really matters and just trolling them for entertainment. Like this...
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Grossly oversimplified as the left does not define words. Also assumes that conversations with leftists happen in a vacuum. In reality, these conversations happen in view of millions who are able to look around and see where evidence does or does not exist to support a conclusion.
As for the meaning of labels...
I can relabel a can of beans as corn. To the beans the label is meaningless, the contents of the can have not changed.
To the person looking for corn the label has meaning. The goal of the label changer wasn't to change the contents on the can, but to mislead the person who would have bought the beans, or the person who was hoping to buy corn.
In the case of the left, they are attempting to relabel conservatism as racism. The rise of the "Alt Right" has made this easier for them as the goal of the Alt Right is to mislead people through the changing of a label. Again, the label does not change the content of those who started it, but it misleads the consumer. This helps the left by creating a large group of people who wanted corn, now the left can point and say "look, they're bean eaters".
So, labels are far from meaningless, or at least far from powerless. Until we master the ability to communicate through telepathy and read each others thoughts, labels will continue to have power and meaning in just about every facet of life except philosophical discussions in which the can exists in an otherwise empty universe.
Is that Left or right of old? I need to know to find out if I'm for or against you.I think we should have/start an "Old Farts Supremacy" movement! Hell Yea! ////////////////////////////////////
zincwarrior
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#oldfartlivesmatter
I think we should have/start an "Old Farts Supremacy" movement! Hell Yea! ////////////////////////////////////
How old does one need to be to join this new club?
A better analogy to the "alt-right basket" would be if they took cans of butter beans, green beans, pinto beans, navy beans, etc... and just put the same "beans" label on them. Technically they are all beans, but I think navy beans taste gross. So I have to conclude that I don't like everything under "beans"? Nah...
Right and that is an intelligence test, or at least a critical thinking test. Rational people will recognize the deception for what it is and carry on with their lives.
Please stop joining them in labeling anything alt-right as white supremacist. It's better to acknowledge it as an ad hominem attack, and dismiss it.
Not arguing against their power over the irrational.
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