In the ATF/FBI company van?View attachment 369285
I ride with LeVieux
In the ATF/FBI company van?View attachment 369285
I ride with LeVieux
That's nice; I'm sure he'll enjoy the company.View attachment 369285
I ride with LeVieux
Which is more "dangerous"? Citizens seeking a safer community, OR the bought and paid for D.A., an incompetent, diversity hire police chief, and, L.E.O.s without skills or training? Me personally, I'd rather have my fellow neighbors watching me AND watching over me.According to Oxford, a vigilante is a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.
The real problem with vigilantism is that those who take the law into their own hands have no accountability factor. When we talk about law, it is often defined as "law and order." It is that “order” part, along with a lack of accountability, that makes vigilantism such a dangerous activity.
Equally dangerous are incompetent LEO’s and ignorant civilian scumbags looking for the opportunity to play God and shoot whomever they decide needs to die.Which is more "dangerous"? Citizens seeking a safer community, OR the bought and paid for D.A., an incompetent, diversity hire police chief, and, L.E.O.s without skills or training? Me personally, I'd rather have my fellow neighbors watching me AND watching over me.
Equally dangerous are incompetent LEO’s and ignorant civilian scumbags looking for the opportunity to play God and shoot whomever they decide needs to die.
Was on a high risk traffic stop where the driver was reported to have shot up a house moments before.Equally dangerous are incompetent LEO’s and ignorant civilian scumbags looking for the opportunity to play God and shoot whomever they decide needs to die.
Was on a high risk traffic stop where the driver was reported to have shot up a house moments before.
When I arrived there were a dozen cop cars up with the truck already so I blocked the road a little up from them at an intersection to provide a safety buffer should it get spicy or or there was a driver not paying attention.
Anyway so Karen called 911 because she thought it excessive so many officers were on the "traffic stop for a head light out"...
How bad could it have gotten if she had tried to take action to protect the bad guy with the gun from her ignorant and wrongly perceived reality...
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Lol you mean interfering with police?How bad could it have gotten if she had tried to take action to protect the bad guy with the gun from her ignorant and wrongly perceived reality...
What would you suggest when Police just aren’t available; no matter the reason ?
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1. Properly prepared AR or other long gun of your choice.
2. A side arm you are proficient with.
3. Plenty of ammo for both.
If not already, have GOOD insurance to cover your defense costs. Personally, I'd likely disable any recording device to preclude the inevitable armchair quarterbacks. I've had to draw and shoot before - it's NOT what you think it is, so my advice would be to do everything reasonably possible to avoid pulling a trigger....but, if you have to do so.....STOP the threat.
Depending on the threat(s), wouldn’t you call on like-minded and capable neighbors ?
There's already an informal arrangement. I prefer overlapping fields of fire, personally.
Auditors are *mostly* just sh!t stirrers, trying to edge as close to the line of a crime as they can to bait an officer to react poorly. I know what I can and can't do and what is worth it and what is not. I've had a few, especially when I worked the entertainment district try to stir stuff up but we just ignored them.Lol you mean interfering with police?
Reminds me of those first amendment auditors on YouTube. It’s a colorful world but overall I hate most of em. I can only imagine: y’all are trying to work and someone with no job needs to “audit” y’all.
I was raised to NEVER argue with an Officer at the scene of any disturbance or incident. My late Dad held that the Police had the dual functions of Law Enforcement and Public Safety “first responder”.Auditors are *mostly* just sh!t stirrers, trying to edge as close to the line of a crime as they can to bait an officer to react poorly. I know what I can and can't do and what is worth it and what is not. I've had a few, especially when I worked the entertainment district try to stir stuff up but we just ignored them.
I have the right to work in a safe (relatively) place and can make the scene safe for others like EMS by keeping people out or back. What gets most of the officers into trouble is when they get told no on a consensual encounter aka a conversation and they forget the can only ask and not make.
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