1911 Magazine Issue

[JLBTEX18]

I own three 1911's. On all three when I chamber a round the next round in the magazine comes loose. If I remove the mag the loose round falls out of the mag well.
This happens with FMJ practice rounds as well as defensive rounds. It does not matter if the mag is fully loaded or has only 5 rounds.
What am I doing wrong?

 

[larrykendellwebb]

I own three 1911's. On all three when I chamber a round the next round in the magazine comes loose. If I remove the mag the loose round falls out of the mag well.
This happens with FMJ practice rounds as well as defensive rounds. It does not matter if the mag is fully loaded or has only 5 rounds.
What am I doing wrong?

How old are the mags, cause surely all 3 guns dont have the same issue

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[DwnRange]

What am I doing wrong?

The only thing I can see that you are doing wrong - is removing the magazine.

When ya load a 1911, any magazine works the same. A old 7 round Colt USGI or an 8 round high dollar Wilson Combat ETM. The second round down is always shifted forward when the top round is chambered.

As ya didn't complain here of FTFs or FTEs I'm making an assumption that you are hand-cycling your 1911 and basically playing with it on the couch - NOT EVER A GOOD THING TO DO from a firearms safety standpoint - as this is how NDs happen and folks get hurt.

In this case, I suspect the second round, being shifted forward is having it's nose contact the front of the mag well and that friction is causing the round to pop out of the feed lips when you are removing the mag.

In a normal firing sequence the shifting of the second round is NOT an issue as firing the first round then re-seats the "forward-shifted" second round as the slide starts it rearward movement. Once the slide reaches it's rearward travel limit it'll pick-up the second round and shift the 3rd round down forward and the firing sequence then begins again.

Shoot it, don't play with it is my advise, (it ain't no toy).

ps - there are many old-timers who NEVER top off their mags because they believe this could contribute to malfunctions in the 1911 - YMMV

 

[Vaquero]

The previous posts are best to be heeded.
I'll just add, don't ride the slide.
Pull back to the stop and let go.

Like a Winchester lever action.
Don't baby it. Run it like ya stole it.
These springs and such weren't made for snowflakes.
If it continues to fire and feed, just quit removing the magazine if it ain't empty.

 

[Dawico]

Is this with one magazine in particular or any mag?

 

[ZX9RCAM]

If you are racking through loaded mags, that's not good for the ammo either.

 

[TxStetson]

Is this with one magazine in particular or any mag?

This.
Are you using the same mag on all 3 of them?

 

[JLBTEX18]

Please don't assume that someone is playing with a firearm in an unsafe manner. This only happens at the range when the muzzle is pointed downrange. I have been a firearm user for over 50 years and I follow all firearm safety rules scrupulously. The reason I noticed it is when I remove the magazine and clear the chamber before leaving the range. I haven't experienced any FTF's or FTE's
I use the magazines supplied with the firearms and all my extra mags are from the same firearm manufacturer.

 

[DwnRange]

Sorry JLB, it was not my intention to hurt your feelings - but I ain't a psychic or clairvoyant and in my own defense here, I only had the information you posted to go on, which was somewhat confusing ie.. "when I chamber a round the next round in the magazine comes loose" (which sort of indicates a novice - as the next round in the magazine is held in place by the slide above it and the rounds below it along with the magazine spring and it ain't in no fix form or fashion "loose").

At least hopefully now you know why this is happening and that it's not uncommon.

Ya can see what I explained in more detail with this YouTube video here:

 

[texasnurse]

What magazines are they, what manufacturers?




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[JLBTEX18]

Sorry JLB, it was not my intention to hurt your feelings - but I ain't a psychic or clairvoyant and in my own defense here, I only had the information you posted to go on, which was somewhat confusing ie.. "when I chamber a round the next round in the magazine comes loose" (which sort of indicates a novice - as the next round in the magazine is held in place by the slide above it and the rounds below it along with the magazine spring and it ain't in no fix form or fashion "loose").

At least hopefully now you know why this is happening and that it's not uncommon.

Ya can see what I explained in more detail with this YouTube video here:

Understood. I did not pose my question in the correct manner. I own several semi-autos that are not 1911's. This issue does not occur with my Ruger LC9, American or my Browning Hi-Power. This must be the way a 1911 works. Anyway, every time I take the 1911 or the Hi-Power to the range I thank ole' John Moses.

 

[JLBTEX18]

What magazines are they, what manufacturers?




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Ruger mags for my Ruger Officer and Kimber mags for both my Kimbers. But, I think DwnRange cleared it up for me.

 

[texasnurse]

Yet I can chamber rounds with my Colt Mags Checkmate, and my CMC Mags and the subsequent round is not loose.


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[TxStetson]

I have a few 1911”s, and my EDC is a 1911. I have never had a round fall out when removing the magazine. I always chamber a round, remove the magazine, top it up, and re-insert. I use Kimber, Colt, Sig, Springfield, and Chip McCormick magazines without this issue happening.

 

[JLBTEX18]

Yet I can chamber rounds with my Colt Mags Checkmate, and my CMC Mags and the subsequent round is not loose.


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I experienced the loose round when I clear the weapon either at the range or before cleaning.
I carry locked and loaded so there is a round in the chamber. I follow prescribed procedure for clearing the weapon: With the safety on I remove the magazine. With the safety off I rack the slide to remove the chambered round. When the magazine is removed and before the safety is off the round on the top of the mag (next round to chamber) falls through the mag well. I suppose this is an idiosyncrasy of the 1911. Do you experience that?

 

[texasnurse]

No


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[Vaquero]

How old are these magazines?
Have they been cleaned or lube?
This sounds like the follower is sticking and no pressure is holding the next round in the magazine.
Other than that, I've no idea what is causing your issue.

 

[Charlie]

How old are these magazines?
Have they been cleaned or lube?
This sounds like the follower is sticking and no pressure is holding the next round in the magazine.
Other than that, I've no idea what is causing your issue.

This ^^^^^^^

 

[TxStetson]

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I experienced the loose round when I clear the weapon either at the range or before cleaning.
I carry locked and loaded so there is a round in the chamber. I follow prescribed procedure for clearing the weapon: With the safety on I remove the magazine. With the safety off I rack the slide to remove the chambered round. When the magazine is removed and before the safety is off the round on the top of the mag (next round to chamber) falls through the mag well. I suppose this is an idiosyncrasy of the 1911. Do you experience that?

No Sir. Never.

 

[TxStetson]

I’m thinking Vaquero may be on to something here. Or maybe you have some old and tired magazine springs.