308x39 load results (7.62x39 with .308 diameter bore)

[rp-]

Started with tula ammo 12?gr fmj.

Pulled bullets. Remeasured and slightly increased powder using the 1.9cc scoop included in my pacesetter die set.

Seated 110gr Sierra varmenter pullets at an overall length of 54.20mm (±0.15mm)

I shot 3 mags of tula factory rounds to get a base line. Sangbag support under the pistol grip with a bipod on the front.

Tula ammo average 6-7" groups


I originally loaded 4 different overall lengths with 5 rounds at each. The top target is at 54.15mm, bottom is 53.20mm. Never mind the group being off.... I was also trying to sight a new RDS while testing these so the groups were moving

 

[Dawico]

Looks like good groups.

 

[robertc1024]

Looks darn good to me too. Nice shooting.

 

[oldag]

Seated 110gr Sierra varmenter pullets ...

Getting those hens to sit was a pretty good accomplishment in itself.

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

you may have mentioned it, but I'm slow so I gotta ask......what did you shoot them out of?

 

[Saltyag2010]

you may have mentioned it, but I'm slow so I gotta ask......what did you shoot them out of?

This.

Good job shooting and reloading.

 

[DubiousDan]

you may have mentioned it, but I'm slow so I gotta ask......what did you shoot them out of?

And the distance.

Nice groups.

 

[rp-]

Sorry for my omissions.... Was typing on the toilet!

I was using my I.O. Inc. M214. All American AK clone. Barrel is made by Mossberg of all people and measured 308. 16.25" with an AK-74 style break on it (thanks orbitup!)


Was shooting at 50 yards. I was practicing for the zombie 3-gun match at Bracken and the ranges are at 40-60 yards for rifle so I was trying to setup the red dot sight for that.

It improved enough that I will get some more bullets and load some more soon. I'll throw the scope on and shoot them out to 100 yards.


My average at 100yards w the tula ammo is about 8" ±.

My average at 50 yards w tula is about 6" ±.

This put my 50y group down to about 2 inches on average. And if you look at the bottom group, 4 rounds are inside 1 square! I'm impressed how well it worked out!



As for seating, the Lee pacesetter die set for x39 comes with expanders for 308 and 311. The tricky part was sizing without the decapper. My process was as follows:


-pull bullets and dump powder, more info on that below
-remove decapping pin and full length (outside sizing only) size the steel cases
-reinstall pin as low as possible sticking out of the bottom of the die
-Size each against the expander only (which was very low inside the die. Too low to touch the outside sizing portion)
- redistribute powder with Lee dispenser.
-place bullets very far out and LIGHT crimp w factory crimp die
-Seat bullet with seating die
-recrimp w factory crimp die



To pull bullets I removed the dies from the press. Then put the loaded rounds in the shell holder and raised to the top, grabbed with pliers and used the lever to pull the pliers against the top. Worked great!

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

sounds like a lot of work

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

I was practicing for the zombie 3-gun match at Bracken and the ranges are at 40-60 yards for rifle so I was trying to setup the red dot sight for that.

what is this^^^^ & when is it?

 

[rp-]

Na. You wouldn't like it. It's for white guys


;-)

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

Na. You wouldn't like it. It's for white guys


;-)

that's racist........

 

[rp-]

https://www.tac-safe.com/register/

 

[rp-]

Damn.....

http://www.tac-safe.com/3-gun-shoot/

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

https://www.tac-safe.com/register/

sounds perty cool, might have to check it out

 

[rp-]

It's meant for beginners. It's 30$. It's really fun. I did one last July.

 

[shortround]

Started with tula ammo 12?gr fmj.

Pulled bullets. Remeasured and slightly increased powder using the 1.9cc scoop included in my pacesetter die set.

Seated 110gr Sierra varmenter pullets at an overall length of 54.20mm (±0.15mm)

I shot 3 mags of tula factory rounds to get a base line. Sangbag support under the pistol grip with a bipod on the front.

Tula ammo average 6-7" groups


I originally loaded 4 different overall lengths with 5 rounds at each. The top target is at 54.15mm, bottom is 53.20mm. Never mind the group being off.... I was also trying to sight a new RDS while testing these so the groups were moving

Whoa!

You pulled the bullets (projectiles), then added more powder and re-seated different bullets?

Did you dump all the original powder? What was the replacement powder?

How did you crimp the replacement bullets on a steel "Tula" case?

Be well.

 

[rp-]

Sorry if I was unclear, I dumped the powder into my Lee perfect powder and reused it. I added about 5% more powder by pulling a few extra bullets (107 total but have some left)

The steel crimped just like brass would.

Because the cases were unfired they only needed the necks resized so I honestly didn't even use any lube

 

[benenglish]

sounds like a lot of work

"Mexican Match" ammo always is.

 

[rp-]

Moscow match is what it was advertised to me as....