Sorry to offend anyone out there who actually appreciates these but I have not had good luck with them. My only experience is with 115gr tournament master FMJ bullets used for reloading my 9mm and 55gr SP and 60gr HP bullets for the .223. They had OALs from .545" to .534"(9mm) and .707"-.732" (.223). They loaded easy enough with fairly consistent diameters but the seating depths were all over the place. Obviously the ogives are consistent but the OALs are terrible. As far as accuracy, I have yet to test the 9mm loads, but the .223 rounds were average or maybe equal to cheap factory stuff. I may be wrong on this one and I haven't given the 9mm rounds a fair run yet. However, if history repeats itself(as it tends to do) I have a feeling the pistol rounds will be no better. I guess this has become a rant more than a discussion but maybe someone out there can back me up or put me in my place. Thanks either way for listenin'/readin' about it ! - Texmex