Post pic of 1922 because I don't know what that isI've never seen a 1922 run properly.
I didn’t say you personally are biased, I said the information being presented is.What bias? I don't have any skin in the game for, or against kimber, and I've said a number of times my information is anecdotal.
It's no more valid than what any other poster here has said. Don't take my word as the golden truth, but don't tell me it's not valid because it didn't come from the mouth of kimbers pr team, or that it doesn't count because i didn't pay money to own the brand in question.
Joke- somebody fat fingered the keyboard, then went back and corrected it.Post pic of 1922 because I don't know what that is
Post pic of 1922 because I don't know what that is
The manufacturer reject rate sure would've been biased.I didn’t say you personally are biased, I said the information being presented is.
Sampling bias - Wikipedia
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Oh yeah. Lots of that going on. All over the country...I didn’t say you personally are biased, I said the information being presented is.
Sampling bias - Wikipedia
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The nice thing about Wikipedia is that you can at least look at where they got their info and decide from there if it is good.I trust Wikipedia as little as the FBI, ATF, DOJ................
I'll add mine in for the numbers. I currently have 5 Kimber 1911's (4-45acp and 1-22lr). I have had zero issues with any of them. I have had upwards of 10 Kimber 1911's and the one's I didn't keep were because I had friends that wanted a 1911 so I sold them one. I also sold my 9mm and 10mm Kimber's to forum members. The 9mm I have been told shoots flawless. Having worked at a gun range, I saw more issues with Nighthawk 1911's (believe it or not). Fit and finish on the Springfield's had gone from good to poor while the RIA's quality in my opinion surpassed Springfield (this being my experience within the last 6-7 years.I got curious so I went through the entire thread again and kept a record of who actually had first hand experience with Kimber's 1911s, and if they had issues. I did not even consider 2nd hand accounts for this. Those were not included in the below numbers.
18 people have admitted to owning one. 5 have had an issue, and one maybe had an issue?. One had a magazine issue, but I didn't count that one since it's not the gun's fault. Anyway, roughly 28% (not counting the maybe) of the people who have personally owned a Kimber in this thread have had an issue. That's not an acceptable failure rate.
There have been AT LEAST 29 Kimbers owned by people in this thread, and AT LEAST 7 of those guns had issues. That's about a 24% failure rate. Again, not acceptable.
4 people (separate from the "owned a Kimber" group) have personally seen or had issues with a Kimber.
At least 2 have seen large numbers of malfunctioning Kimbers come through their shop.
There's only a small number of people on this forum, and even fewer in this thread, so you cannot say that these numbers are true for the whole country. HOWEVER, such a large number of failures in such a small number of people does hint at possible quality control issues with Kimber 1911s.
That's enough for me to not consider buying a Kimber in the future, especially at the prices they command.
Drinking on the job I see. jk.RIA's quality in my opinion surpassed Springfield
They make a great pistol. Most of their smiths are former Wilson Combat smiths and they are down the street from each other. Only ever saw one have an issue, one more than any Kimber (personal experience).cv, so nighthawk isn't worth it huh? Never messed with one.
What's funny about that is two customers came in with Wilson combat guns at my FIL's shop. The AR15 shocked me. I figured for the money it would be gtg. Out of the box it had bad feeding issues. I mean destruction of brass and bullet level.They make a great pistol. Most of their smiths are former Wilson Combat smiths and they are down the street from each other. Only ever saw one have an issue, one more than any Kimber (personal experience).
Yep. Just goes to show there are good one's and lemons no matter the manufacturerWhat's funny about that is two customers came in with Wilson combat guns at my FIL's shop. The AR15 shocked me. I figured for the money it would be gtg. Out of the box it had bad feeding issues. I mean destruction of brass and bullet level.
It’s just a definition. You can go find it on another website if it makes you happy to read it somewhere else.I trust Wikipedia as little as the FBI, ATF, DOJ................