Campus Carry Killed

[Hoji]

Senator declares campus carry bill 'dead' - San Antonio Express-News

 

[UncleSamsMisguidedChild]

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/politics/46168-campus-carry-dead-some-other-bs.html

Posted already, but still a bummer

 

[stdreb27]

Even Colorado has campus carry.

 

[cbigclarke]

I am very angry. There shall be changes next election

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[Hoji]

Grr. Sorry. Can politics and legislation be merged into one?

 

[BIGPAPIGREG]

maybe they can issue pressure cookers?

 

[ares338]

I guess Texas lawmakers enjoy school mass murders. What a bunch of fools.

 

[Younggun]

Keep in mind, it seems that it is only a few people who are in the right place stopping these bills.

Just like open carry, one guy can kill it by simply ignoring it. I hope it costs them next election and their replacement sees the why.

 

[Dreamliner787]

How come no one has proposed any bill to remove the "gun free" zones...all of it?

 

[JKTex]

I guess Texas lawmakers enjoy school mass murders. What a bunch of fools.

With that argument you hand the win over to them before you finish speaking.

 

[Younggun]

Arguments like that have been working great for the libs.


Just sayin.

 

[warmachine77]

List of bills on the calendar for this Saturday, campus carry is included open carry sadly is not.Calendar Display

 

[Armybrat]

Well, you can thank Senator Whitmire again for this.

BTW - At lunchtime on August 1st, 1966 I was cowering behind a car while Charles Whitman did his evil work from the University of Texas Tower. He was pretty effective with that 6mm Remington bolt action rifle.

Sure was glad to hear a LOT of return fire start up from students who were using their deer rifles they kept in
their dorm rooms & apartments. Sounded like a "Nam firefight we saw on the TV news.

Undoubtedly those armed students saved many lives because it pinned Whitman down so he was restricted to shooting out of the drain spouts in the stone parapet around the observation deck.

Before that, I watched him casually lean over the parapet to pick off a few unsuspecting & clueless people on the ground. All the police had were .38 Special revolvers and a few shotguns.
Afterwards in the mob scene below the Tower I saw a Texas Ranger with a Thompson submachine gun. Never did hear it firing during the 90 minute gun battle.

"Gun free zones".... my butt.

 

[Army 1911]

As I recall, it was students with rifles that held the sniper at UT at bay until the cops got their act together. Of course I could be wrong. I am a man after all.

 

[Armybrat]

As I recall, it was students with rifles that held the sniper at UT at bay until the cops got their act together. Of course I could be wrong. I am a man after all.

You are basically correct. Two police officers and a civilian (a store manager from the UT Coop) with his own handgun were the ones who finally cornered Whitman on the observation deck - with the two cops unloading on him with a shotgun & service .38 Sp. revolver after the civilian had distracted Whitman by firing a couple shots at him from the other direction.

 

[Bithabus]

It was killed last time too but the voters didn't care.

 

[RPB]

Campus Carry bill vote tomorrow is on a bill that let's trustees "opt out". IIRC, if opted out, then it does NOT "de-criminalize" but makes crime a Class A/B Misd. which causes loss of CHL plus jail/ attorney fees etc
(Unlike Virginia Tech where it was NOT a crime, but they could expel you for living through a mass shooting due to being prepared)

@DrewSpringer 13m Quite a few bills on the floor today in the #txlege, tomorrow is gun day! Looking forward to laying out #HB698 and voting on campus carry!

 

[Randy45]

Once again the gutless wonders win......

 

[RPB]

Watch floor amendments ... "I'll rid this dog of it's fleas"
hope he can ...

===============
House - Gun Bill Saturday

HB47 - Reduction of CHL class hours
(SB864) - - passed


HB48 - Removes the requirement to take a renewal class to renew your CHL. - passed


HB485 - Relating to the CHL fee for peace officers and military veterans - passed


HB508 - Creates large civil penalty for governmental entities posting unenforceable 30.06 signs. - - passed

HB698 - Requires DPS to establish an alternative to digital fingerprints by L1 for people living more than 25 miles from L1 - - passed


HB801 - Requires Hunter Education Courses to include warnings about rounds leaving the property; also requires the posting of "School Nearby" signs. - - passed


HB972 - Comprehensive campus-carry. SUPPORT INCLUDING ALL PRO-GUN FLOOR AMENDMENTS--- passed w/ amendments on voice vote 2nd reading ...



HB1009 - Creation of new "school marshal" program. The bill is too narrow and will prevent thousands of volunteers - - passed.


HB1304 - Changes code from "failure to conceal" to intentionally "displays" a handgun;
SB299 - -- passed


HB1421 - Creates an option to sell certain seized firearms rather than destroy those guns. passed

Toth's Firearms Protection Act #hb1076 passes to 3rd Reading.

HB2665, defeated ...
HB2665 by Taylor, Van (Relating to the use of a concealed handgun license as valid proof of personal identification. The bill would amend the Business and Commerce Code to stipulate an individual may not deny the holder of a valid concealed handgun license (CHL) access to certain goods, services, or facilities because the holder has or presents a DPS issued CHL rather than a DPS issued driver's license . Dems won't tolerate any bill that says "ID" point of order sustained, so DPS issued CHL isn't as good an ID as a DPS issued Driver License ...

 

[steve-o]

HB2665, defeated ...
HB2665 by Taylor, Van (Relating to the use of a concealed handgun license as valid proof of personal identification. The bill would amend the Business and Commerce Code to stipulate an individual may not deny the holder of a valid concealed handgun license (CHL) access to certain goods, services, or facilities because the holder has or presents a DPS issued CHL rather than a DPS issued driver's license . Dems won't tolerate any bill that says "ID" point of order sustained, so DPS issued CHL isn't as good an ID as a DPS issued Driver License ...

What sense does this make? Anybody can get a DL, you have to have a background check to get a CHL. It's issued by TX DPS, has your picture, address, DOB, DL#, Hair/eye color, sex, weight, height, and an expiration date.

These are acceptable forms of id to vote

Acceptable Forms of Identification
For Qualifying V otersJune 2006
a Texas Voter Registration Certificate is the preferred form ofidentification.
Acceptable alternatives are:

1. a driver’s license or personal identification card issued by theTexas Department of Public Safety or similar documents fromother states;
   
2. a form of identification containing a photograph that establishesa person’s identity (such as an employee identification card);
   
3. a birth certificate or other document confirming birth that isadmissible in a court of law and establishes a person’s identity;
   
4. United States citizenship papers;
   
5. a United States passport;
   
6. official mail addressed to the person by name from agovernmental agency;
   
7. a copy of a current utility bill, bank statement, governmentcheck, paycheck, or other government document that shows thename and address of the voter; or
   
8. any other form of identification presented by the Secretary ofState’s office.