Can anyone get a hold of R12?

[stdreb27]

But it it were me, I'd just go with freeze 12. Till the system goes out, unless it is a show car...

 

[tango5seven]

I might know where to get a whole 30# jug of the stuff. It really needs a good home.

I saved it from my business for retirement then waited too long. Noone needs the stuff no more.


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[itchin]

I just bid on 3 cans of freeze 12. Hopefully I win. Tango5seven, that shit is selling for a pretty penny on ebay. Check it out for yourself. You can make a few coins if ya wanted.

 

[tango5seven]

I want.... Just worried the EPA might object if I advertise too loudly.


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[itchin]

I want.... Just worried the EPA might object if I advertise too loudly.


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Might wanna check up on that. Hopefully they grandfathered in private owners, and figure once it's gone, it's gone. I went to 0 reillys today, and they want $60 a small can or R12, if You are able to buy it.

 

[winchster]

I want.... Just worried the EPA might object if I advertise too loudly.


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Just state that the purchaser must show their EPA. Last I heard, a 30lb virgin jug is worth close to a $1000 to the right folks.

 

[M. Sage]

I am looking for about 3 cans of r12. Can anyone in or around San Antonio still buy this stuff? If not, does anyone have a can tapper for r12, that I can borrow? I hate to convert to r134a, but will if I can do it on my own. I was told the r12 would need to be sucked out at a shop. Any truth to this? What if i just let it all leak out? I thought this stuff was heavier than air, so I cannot understand how it could harm the ozone. I can buy feeeze 12 on ebay for pretty cheap, but I don't wanna buy a can tapper. So if someone has one that I can borrow, I will go that route. Thanks in advance for any info.

Ok, so I didn't read the whole thread...

Legally, you can't just vent it. Legally. If you do convert to 134, you'll need to change the oil in the system to a PAG oil, because apparently the old stuff isn't compatible with 134. You'll also want to refill the refrigerant to about 80% of the R12 capacity.

 

[M. Sage]

Some '94 Jeeps are also forward compatible to R134a. Pop the hood and check your AC lines. If your access ports are screw-on type, then it's R12 only. If you have the quick-connect type, then it's R134a compatible.

If it has the quick-connect service ports, it's not "forward-compatible", it is R134A. 94 was the year the industry went 134.

 

[itchin]

If it has the quick-connect service ports, it's not "forward-compatible", it is R134A. 94 was the year the industry went 134.

Thats what I read, but the compressor clearly states R12. I bought it used. Maybe someone put an older compressor in it before I bought it?

Edit: I have screw on ports. My jeep is definatly a 94.

 

[Eli]

Mopar stuck with R-12 a year or two after everybody else had converted.
I've converted several systems to R-134a, and sold hundreds of conversion kits. If the system is in good condition (good compressor, no leaks) then R-134a and synthetic oil ought to work fine. BTDT, YMMV.

Eli

 

[itchin]

I dont doubt that for a minute, but what does a DIYer do with the old R12?

 

[scap99]

I dont doubt that for a minute, but what does a DIYer do with the old R12?

Deminimus leak?


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[stdreb27]

Sell it on the black market... The classic car all original people don't like 134...

 

[winchster]

I dont doubt that for a minute, but what does a DIYer do with the old R12?

Gauges, bucket of water.


Least that's what I hear. Lol

 

[scap99]

Gauges, bucket of water.


Least that's what I hear. Lol

Towel works too.

We used to call it "recovering to the atmosphere". Lol


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[winchster]

Towel works too.

We used to call it "recovering to the atmosphere". Lol


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Yea, I've observed "atmospheric recovery" a time or two. Never participated of course.

 

[grasshopperglock]

Yea, I've observed "atmospheric recovery" a time or two. Never participated of course.

We use to spray it a cup and freeze june bugs with R12 when it was a $1 a pound. And water doesn't freeze in the stock pond when you shoot a floating can. The can just spins around.

Global warming is my fault. My bad. Or was it DuPonts patent running out on R12? I forget.

 

[scap99]

We use to spray it a cup and freeze june bugs with R12 when it was a $1 a pound. And water doesn't freeze in the stock pond when you shoot a floating can. The can just spins around.

Global warming is my fault. My bad. Or was it DuPonts patent running out on R12? I forget.

Patents expiring, FTW.
I remember when R11 was phased out. R123 was going to save world. Only, if you breathed it, you better have a wheel barrow for your nuts.
Now R22 is done, but they didn't change the schraeder valves on a home system. How long until someone puts a set of R22 gauges on a R410a system??




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[scap99]

Yea, I've observed "atmospheric recovery" a time or two. Never participated of course.

Me either. I remember seeing system change outs as a kid. They'd just cut the suction line and back away.


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[M. Sage]

I dont doubt that for a minute, but what does a DIYer do with the old R12?

Well, your system's already empty, right? Otherwise you wouldn't need R12...