I get very tired with these threads the morph into, "I won't buy if the seller requires a BOS, or I won't sell unless the buyer accepts a BOS."
Yeah I know, I don't need to read these threads and can click out so please don't come back with that.
The fact of the matter is a BOS is really no big friggin deal. I sold a few larger items in a garage sale a number of years back, and I made out BOS. I felt it was a good will gesture to make the deal perfectly understandable by both parties. IE, sold as is, no warranty implied, etc.
I don't understand why some are so hell bent on not having a BOS. And, yes I know it's not required. So if you came to my garage sale, and wanted to buy a lawnmower I had up for sale, would you bulk at a BOS that protects both parties?
You have to show an ID to buy a gun from a licensed dealer. You do not have to show an ID to buy a gun from a private resident of Texas, although the seller may reasonably ask to see one to verify that you are in fact a Texas resident.
Soon you will have to show and ID to vote, as well you should.
Soon you will have to show and ID to vote, as well you should.
so.... You do not have to do any paper trail when you sale a firearm. Not like a vehicle when you sell/trade, you do a vehicle of title transfer. Im almost positive your saying no, just wanna make sure before I go on 50 years thinking this. Thanks a lot. I thought it was required as I sold a gun last year and have been worried about it since, since I did not get any paperwork at all. Thanks again guys. Glad I joined this site
Vehicles are registered with the state. Guns are not (except for NFA stuff and that's federal), and therefore require NO record of sale.
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And I don't think anyone is disputing the fact that is not required. My point is it's just not that big of a deal as some make it out to be. Like OMG my personal rights are being violated. Please, there are bigger issues to address in the gun rights world then a seller asking for some ID.
IIWY, I would tell co-workers they are right and you no longer carry a gun in your car.
Never again discuss guns with co-workers. Ever.
... there's no purpose to asking for one, though. It doesn't protect you in any way, shape or form. If you want to record my name and stuff in your book, you've got that. But from a legal standpoint, that bill of sale is a piece of toilet paper that someone scribbled on.
Okay, but it's still no big friggin deal, and I don't understand why people get so up tight about it one way or the other. Good grief.
Right now there isn't. Worst case scenario (the one the 2A exists for): I may someday have to be able to honestly answer "I have no idea".
IIWY, I would tell co-workers they are right and you no longer carry a gun in your car.
Never again discuss guns with co-workers. Ever.
If we treat guns like a dirty secret, then others will too. I think it's better for all of us to be open about our hobbies. If you act weird about it, other people will shun it.Never again discuss guns with co-workers. Ever.
How about this for a worst case scenario:Jones insists on a BOS because the internet said it is a good idea. Later, scumbags break into Jones' home and steal his guns and his stack of BOS. Then, the scumbags burglarize all the people who gave Jones their info because it "couldn't hurt".
How about this for a worst case scenario:
Jones insists on a BOS because the internet said it is a good idea. Later, scumbags break into Jones' home and steal his guns and his stack of BOS. Then, the scumbags burglarize all the people who gave Jones their info because it "couldn't hurt".
I get why people say this. I do. But being too closed down on the topic is not good either.
My approach is to not give any detailed information about where I have anything, but openly talk about shooting and hunting. OPSEC doesn't mean you have to have a complete blackout on topics. You just have to be careful what information comes out.
This is Texas and I refuse to have our culture hijacked. Because of this openness the culture in our office has become much more gun friendly over the last several years and the discussion is no longer a taboo. A number of people new people have been introduced to shooting, and others who were afraid to talk about it now can breathe a little easier.
If we treat guns like a dirty secret, then others will too. I think it's better for all of us to be open about our hobbies. If you act weird about it, other people will shun it.
I've never been overt about my gun hobby, but I've taken a few co-workers shooting and word has gotten around that I'm a "gun guy". I pretty much never initiate the conversation, but people come up to me talking about guns all the time. You might be surprised how many of your co-workers are interested in it if they knew you were, too.