Child Porn, telltale signs

[Whistler]

Where do you get that idea? I don't think anyone is advocating anything like that. What we're discussing is the [intentionally] flawed characterization and the potential abuse of privacy when any means is asserted as justified by the ends. For example the mere existence of an account or implicated IP is often considered "proof" of access/wrongdoing when anyone can create an account pointing to anyone else through a few simple techniques. No one is suggesting protecting child pornographers, what I am suggesting is violating anyone's rights even to catch a child pornographer is unacceptable.

 

[Mike1234567]

Where do you get that idea? I don't think anyone is advocating anything like that. What we're discussing is the [intentionally] flawed characterization and the potential abuse of privacy when any means is asserted as justified by the ends. For example the mere existence of an account or implicated IP is often considered "proof" of access/wrongdoing when anyone can create an account pointing to anyone else through a few simple techniques. No one is suggesting protecting child pornographers, what I am suggesting is violating anyone's rights even to catch a child pornographer is unacceptable.

I completely agree with this. I guess I misinterpreted a couple of others posts.

 

[TheDan]

Seriously, has anybody worked with an ITT grad in a computing field? Are they really that clueless?

I have interviewed quite a lot; never hired any of them. I think it's partially the quality of individual they attract, and partially that ITT has no concept of what useful, practical knowledge is. ...but most universities don't either

 

[benenglish]

I have interviewed quite a lot; never hired any of them.

Thanks. I sorta figured that would be the case.

 

[jordanmills]

I have interviewed quite a lot; never hired any of them. I think it's partially the quality of individual they attract, and partially that ITT has no concept of what useful, practical knowledge is. ...but most universities don't either

The difference is that the universities (at least used to) teach you how to learn.

 

[Vaquero]

The difference is that the universities (at least used to) teach you how to learn.

As the father of a university student, I can tell you, that is not the case today.
In high school, they are taught to "absorb". The sit and listen is already in grained by high school.
Now the "higher education" system just feeds the machine.

No brag, just fact. My daughter is a casualty of the system. Genius level IQ. Independent thinker, just like I raised her.
Her "classmates" have or soon will have a diploma from a state funded university. She's gonna have to play dumb and "fake" her way through just to get a degree. She had one "professor" that she said I might approve of (history).
She's just not buying the bullshit they're selling.
A few of you are, or soon will be, dealing with this.

Best of luck to you.

 

[winchster]

As the father of a university student, I can tell you, that is not the case today.
In high school, they are taught to "absorb". The sit and listen is already in grained by high school.
Now the "higher education" system just feeds the machine.

No brag, just fact. My daughter is a casualty of the system. Genius level IQ. Independent thinker, just like I raised her.
Her "classmates" have or soon will have a diploma from a state funded university. She's gonna have to play dumb and "fake" her way through just to get a degree. She had one "professor" that she said I might approve of (history).
She's just not buying the bullshit they're selling.
A few of you are, or soon will be, dealing with this.

Best of luck to you.

As the father of a recent graduate of Tarleton, i can second this.

 

[jordanmills]

As the father of a university student, I can tell you, that is not the case today.
In high school, they are taught to "absorb". The sit and listen is already in grained by high school.
Now the "higher education" system just feeds the machine.

No brag, just fact. My daughter is a casualty of the system. Genius level IQ. Independent thinker, just like I raised her.
Her "classmates" have or soon will have a diploma from a state funded university. She's gonna have to play dumb and "fake" her way through just to get a degree. She had one "professor" that she said I might approve of (history).
She's just not buying the bullshit they're selling.
A few of you are, or soon will be, dealing with this.

Best of luck to you.

Yeah, I saw some of that when I was in undergrad. I was hoping it's just because I went to a commuter state school. There were still a large number of profs who either actually taught instead of helping students memorize, or tried their best to fake it. But I keep hearing that it's just about turned into the other four years of high school.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

So who are those Profs? Many of them I went to college with. Seems like in those days college attendance would get you a draft deferment, so it was head off to college, change majors your senior year, work on your Masters after that, then work on your Phd and by then Vietnam was either over or you gone low on the draft lottery and did not get picked. You were also entrenched in the college, knowing every Prof there as you had been going to school for about 8 years and you walked into a Associate Prof, which you had been doing for a few years already. Other than college you had never worked a day in your life, lived only in the bubble of college life, when when you come down to it one hellva of a easy, carefree life of free love, drugs and parties, which you are still doing today...

Ask me sometime about coming off the DMZ in Vietnam with the 1/12 Inf, 1st Cav in 68 and stepping onto a college campus...

 

[benenglish]

...when you come down to it one hellva of a easy, carefree life of free love, drugs and parties, which you are still doing today...

I had a teacher in high school who would step in when the guidance counselor was failing. If a kid was smart enough to go to college but was wavering on making the commitment to go, he'd pull them aside. They all got the same speech.

"Look, forget everything you've been told about why you should go to college. Just remember this: college is four years of unlimited sex and alcohol, paid for by your parents. How's that sound?"

I don't know a single kid he talked to who didn't immediately get on the stick and get into a college.