Chipotle: Don't Bring Guns Into Our Stores!

[OnyxATX]

Please use caution with hammer down on a live round in a 1911. This is far, far from safe practice. I would say that hammer up, round in, safety on is much, much more safe. Even if it feels more scary because the hammer is back... still IMO a much better way to carry.

 

[TXARGUY]

Please use caution with hammer down on a live round in a 1911. This is far, far from safe practice. I would say that hammer up, round in, safety on is much, much more safe. Even if it feels more scary because the hammer is back... still IMO a much better way to carry.

I'm a hammer up guy because personally it allows for faster action and less mentally involved processes but the safety debate between hammer up vs. hammer down has been ongoing for longer than I have been alive (1971 baby) with neither side proving or disproving the other side's argument.

Carry how you want to carry. I'm not going to tell you any different.

Unless you're one of the retards I am addressing in this thread.

 

[franzas]

At chipotle. No "no guns" sign. No employee has said anything to me

 

[matefrio]

Hammer Down = Risk you drop the hammer during a stressful situation it goes off if it misses the safety.

Now you've done shot the person without pulling the trigger.

Risk you drop the hammer while decocking.

 

[Younggun]

Or your leg.

 

[TXARGUY]

Hammer Down = Risk when you go and cock the hammer during a stressful situation it goes off.

Now you've done shot the person without pulling the trigger.

Sounds efficient.

 

[Big Dipper]

First of all, I too believe that cocked and locked (Condition 1) is best.

Interesting though, that is not what JMB intended with his original design (i.e., before the Army required that he add the thumb safety). If you haven't read the patent application you should (https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US984519.pdf).

He actually intended condition 2 to be the "safety position".

Specifically, on page 7 line 8 of the patent application, he says

Heretofore in the pistols of this class when the hammer was cocked ready for firing and it became necessary to lower the hammer to the safety position, it required both hands of the user to accomplish this act, ...

He then goes on to explain that the thumb of the gripping hand can be used to pull the hammer back far enough to actually depress the grip safe and thereby free the trigger so that it can be pressed while the thumb allows the hammer "to slowly descend to the safety position, without requiring the aid of the other hand."

I should add, that in many (perhaps most) current incarnations of the 1911, this maneuver is not possible.

 

[Shotgun Jeremy]

Chipotle To Customer: ?Not A Ban? On Guns | The Dana Show


Fuckin EAT IT, Shannon!!!!! Get some!!!!

 

[Mreed911]

Chipotle To Customer: ?Not A Ban? On Guns | The Dana Show

Fuckin EAT IT, Shannon!!!!! Get some!!!!

If you kick out all the overweight, white, gun owners, who's going to eat their burritos? The hipsters are all at the "local" burrito place eating "kale and sprouts" burritos, eschewing "big corporations" like Chipotle.

 

[Younggun]

If you kick out all the overweight, white, gun owners, who's going to eat their burritos? The hipsters are all at the "Freebirds burrito place eating "kale and sprouts" burritos, eschewing "big corporations" like Chipotle.

Fifty

 

[stdreb27]

Chipotle To Customer: ?Not A Ban? On Guns | The Dana Show


$#@!in EAT IT, Shannon!!!!! Get some!!!!

Not knocking you but that's just dumb. "Official gun ban". People don't understand the English language.

 

[Mreed911]

Fifty

Way off the mark. Freebirds is a chain, now, like Chipotle. Especially in Austin, they're not "cool" anymore.

Google Cabo Bob's. You'll see what I mean.

 

[Tejano Scott]

Didn't see this posted here yet, so here ya go-

 

[franzas]

Good shit Scott!

 

[Younggun]

Way off the mark. Freebirds is a chain, now, like Chipotle. Especially in Austin, they're not "cool" anymore.

Google Cabo Bob's. You'll see what I mean.

It was in reference to the Freebirds thread, but you just killed it.


Murderer.

 

[Southpaw]

Thought I would post this. I found it interesting that their safety and entire movement is dependent on keeping legal gun owners at bay and completely misses the fact that there are actual criminals out there that could care less about signs and notices. Such a mindless cause in my opinion.

Mike -- Wow, that was fast! Following a weekend of pressure on social media from supporters like you and just hours after we launched our petition asking Chipotle to prohibit guns in its restaurants, the Denver-based company issued a statement: "[W]e are respectfully asking that customers not bring guns into our restaurants, unless they are authorized law enforcement personnel."​ This is a crucial victory for our movement -- not only because we can now feel safer to enjoy a burrito in Chipotle, but because it sends a message to business owners everywhere that the safety of their customers must come first.

 

[breakingcontact]

Thought I would post this. I found it interesting that their safety and entire movement is dependent on keeping legal gun owners at bay and completely misses the fact that there are actual criminals out there that could care less about signs and notices. Such a mindless cause in my opinion.

It blows my mind that people feel safer without guns.

My work is posted 30 06. That sucks. I know security isnt going to leap into action if someone shoots up the place (the building/campus is huge) but hey at least we have security guards.

When I saw the security guards...I was like hmmm...lets see what guns they are carrying. They arent armed either.

Weird how people feel good about being sitting ducks.

 

[Shotgun Jeremy]

This guy breaks down the incident pretty spot on:



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[Chupacabra Hunter]

I have not read the this entire thread but I saw this article.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5380338?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592&.tsrc=samsungwn&.sep=table

 

[Mreed911]

I have not read the this entire thread but I saw this article.

Pro-Gun Group Backs Down After Chipotle Rally Backfires

Ha. How do you know it wasn't already referenced?

In any case, the TABC piece is something that hasn't been brought up in this thread. VERY important.