Coronavirus Epidemic, Part 2

toddnjoyce

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What the Johns Hopkins Newsletter now says about the article, why it was removed, and why (they say) it isn't to be trusted (even though they originally published it) can be found here. That's some mighty convoluted spinning being done by folks who are supposed to be upholding some sort of high academic standards....
“Briand’s study should not be used exclusively in understanding the impact of COVID-19, but should be taken in context with the countless other data published by Hopkins, the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). “ (source above)

Change Briand’s to Any and that statement becomes incredibly accurate, therefore JHU News-Letter should retract everything, add that disclaimer, and just state that critical thinking and non-conforming or unpopular views have no value.

I get the publication is student run and that entire statement can be used to understand why the media industry has zero to infinitesimally small amounts of journalistic integrity.
 

gdr_11

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Ok, time to beat the dead horse once again! My son lives in Los Angeles Country where they are once again on a stay at home order due to the "alarming rise in cases".

Earlier this year, data from three US states – New York, Nevada and Massachusetts – showed that when the amount of the virus found in a person was taken into account, up to 90 percent of people who tested positive could actually have been negative, as they may have been carrying only tiny amounts of the virus.

A judicial ruling in Portugal determined that using the virus tests to quarantine visitors cited a study conducted by “some of the leading European and world specialists,” which was published by Oxford Academic at the end of September. It showed that if someone tested positive for Covid at a cycle threshold of 35 or higher, the chances of that person actually being infected is less than three percent, and that “the probability of… receiving a false positive is 97% or higher.” The United States has been pushing positive cases as being those that are as high as 40 cycles while many experts say that anything higher than 25-30 should be regarded as negative.

Even with these inflated test results, all we hear from the MSM is the screaming about the number of cases in certain states. No one talks about the percentage of population affected or the rate of infection/hospitalization/death per 100,000.

Look at the two pages below. In the first, scroll down to the number of cases per state. In the second, look at the population by state. Any surprises? The more people in the state, the more likely you are to have a higher total number of cases that less populated states which has nothing to do with how serious the problem is in any state. What matters are the percentages and the rates, not the total numbers. If course, this means using facts, not hysterical data pulled out of context

Common sense!

My rant is done; you may all be at ease for the next 30 days.


 

oldag

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Ok, time to beat the dead horse once again! My son lives in Los Angeles Country where they are once again on a stay at home order due to the "alarming rise in cases".

Earlier this year, data from three US states – New York, Nevada and Massachusetts – showed that when the amount of the virus found in a person was taken into account, up to 90 percent of people who tested positive could actually have been negative, as they may have been carrying only tiny amounts of the virus.

A judicial ruling in Portugal determined that using the virus tests to quarantine visitors cited a study conducted by “some of the leading European and world specialists,” which was published by Oxford Academic at the end of September. It showed that if someone tested positive for Covid at a cycle threshold of 35 or higher, the chances of that person actually being infected is less than three percent, and that “the probability of… receiving a false positive is 97% or higher.” The United States has been pushing positive cases as being those that are as high as 40 cycles while many experts say that anything higher than 25-30 should be regarded as negative.

Even with these inflated test results, all we hear from the MSM is the screaming about the number of cases in certain states. No one talks about the percentage of population affected or the rate of infection/hospitalization/death per 100,000.

Look at the two pages below. In the first, scroll down to the number of cases per state. In the second, look at the population by state. Any surprises? The more people in the state, the more likely you are to have a higher total number of cases that less populated states which has nothing to do with how serious the problem is in any state. What matters are the percentages and the rates, not the total numbers. If course, this means using facts, not hysterical data pulled out of context

Common sense!

My rant is done; you may all be at ease for the next 30 days.


Dang it. Would you quit trying to apply logic and science here?? We're trying to have a mass hysteria.
 

Brains

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Just got back from the MS coast. Things are pretty normal down there. Some people wearing masks, many not. None of it is mandatory.

Took the grandson to Big Play. Played laser tag with other kids and adults we didn't know, drove gokarts, played arcade games, etc... Everybody non-masked.
OMG. Sorry to hear you died. Hope you get to feeling better soon.
 

gdr_11

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BTW - For those of you who are watching the supposed spike in hospitalizations, you may want to consider the impact of the following new treatment protocols and their requirements that artificially contribute to hospitalization numbers increase.

1) on 10/22/2020, Remdesevir was given Emergency Use Authorization as the first therapeutic available for COVID 19. Remdesevir requires a 3, 5 or 7 day hospital stay for it to be administered. It cannot be given outpatient. Cases not requiring hospitalization now must be hospitalized for a simple treatment.

2) in early November, Regeneron was given an Emergency Use Authorization for use against Covid. It was approved for use in early phases of the disease where patients are generally not sick enough to be in the hospital. It too requires a hospitalization for administration. No outpatient treatment. Cases not requiring hospitalization now must be hospitalized for a simple treatment.

3) in late a October CDC and American Hospital Association agreed on updated guidance to “count” all hospital stays where COVID is confirmed, of greater than 8 hours but less than 24 as an overnight admission; a “hospitalization”. Prior to late October this treatment would not have been counted as a hospitalization.

There is little doubt those three factors play a role in the reported increase in statistics.
 

Mowingmaniac 24/7

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G-11,

Hospitilization for treatment gets the c-19 stats higher - how convenient...and one severely fked up way to go about it!!

But de gumint say dis de way to help de 'biden-ite-holes' wit dey agenda...
 
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