Dallas Stars Open House @ AAC Carry??

[Medic218]

The Stars have an open house(open practice) this weekend at the AAC and I was wondering if I could possibly carry to this event...
I know about the pro sporting event prohibition so I'm leaning towards no but since it is just a practice and not an actual game I thought I'd get some more expert advice here.
Does "pro sporting event" include practice sessions too?
Thanks guys!

 

[West Texas]

The Stars have an open house(open practice) this weekend at the AAC and I was wondering if I could possibly carry to this event...
I know about the pro sporting event prohibition so I'm leaning towards no but since it is just a practice and not an actual game I thought I'd get some more expert advice here.
Does "pro sporting event" include practice sessions too?
Thanks guys!

Ok, go ahead...if they ask you about it, just tell them you are there to make practice more interesting by enforcing penalties in a whole new way...

by the way, I've got space in my safe for your firearms until you get the little "misunderstanding" worked out should this not be seen as a positive way to reinforce good habits on the ice...

 

[Medic218]

Ok, go ahead...if they ask you about it, just tell them you are there to make practice more interesting by enforcing penalties in a whole new way...

by the way, I've got space in my safe for your firearms until you get the little "misunderstanding" worked out should this not be seen as a positive way to reinforce good habits on the ice...

hmmmmm.....i simple no would have worked
lol

 

[West Texas]

hmmmmm.....i simple no would have worked
lol

maybe...but would not have been NEAR as funny!

 

[matefrio]

Does this meet the legal definition of a professional sporting event? I don't see that it does, but I'm not a lawyer. Note below that the sporting event must be taking place to apply so if no sporting events are taking place all the other laws apply such as proper 30.06 signs.

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/blogs/txinvestigator/14-basic-texas-weapons-laws-part-4.html

(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event;
A professional sporting event is one in which the participants are paid for their participation. This includes your typical professional sports, NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB, etc, as well as NASCAR and some rodeo events.

 

[Bithabus]

The players have to go to the practice, and they are being paid to do so. Also, during these practices, don't the players separate into two teams and play a sort of shortened match?

We can all form opinions as to whether a practice falls under 46.035, but if you are made the only opinion that matters will be that of the LEO.

 

[matefrio]

The players have to go to the practice, and they are being paid to do so. Also, during these practices, don't the players separate into two teams and play a sort of shortened match?

We can all form opinions as to whether a practice falls under 46.035, but if you are made the only opinion that matters will be that of the LEO.

LEOs that are likely less informed than the folks here.

 

[txinvestigator]

Does this meet the legal definition of a professional sporting event? I don't see that it does, but I'm not a lawyer. Note below that the sporting event must be taking place to apply so if no sporting events are taking place all the other laws apply such as proper 30.06 signs.

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/blogs/txinvestigator/14-basic-texas-weapons-laws-part-4.html

(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, unless the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used in the event;
A professional sporting event is one in which the participants are paid for their participation. This includes your typical professional sports, NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB, etc, as well as NASCAR and some rodeo events.

Just for clarification, the phrase "A professional sporting event is one in which the participants are paid for their participation. This includes your typical professional sports, NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB, etc, as well as NASCAR and some rodeo events" does not appear in the law.

 

[texas_teacher]

Just for clarification, the phrase "A professional sporting event is one in which the participants are paid for their participation. This includes your typical professional sports, NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB, etc, as well as NASCAR and some rodeo events" does not appear in the law.

Well yeah especially since instead of listing all of those acronyms and then listing "some rodeo events" wouldn't be the specificities that we know our laws to be clear with. Maybe listing such entities as the PBR, IPRA etc.

What about such things as the AHL, the MiLB, the MLS, etc? What about events such as professional monster truck "sporting events" and dirt track races?

If this was really a law and was going into specifics then they really dropped the ball, that's why it was vaguely obvious that it isn't the part of the law.

 

[txinvestigator]

Well yeah especially since instead of listing all of those acronyms and then listing "some rodeo events" wouldn't be the specificities that we know our laws to be clear with. Maybe listing such entities as the PBR, IPRA etc.

What about such things as the AHL, the MiLB, the MLS, etc? What about events such as professional monster truck "sporting events" and dirt track races?

If this was really a law and was going into specifics then they really dropped the ball, that's why it was vaguely obvious that it isn't the part of the law.

The definition of professional sporting event is my main point. While I believe that is the accepted definition, it is not in stone. And since he took that statement directly fom my Blog, I believe my clarification is justified. http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/blogs/txinvestigator/14-basic-texas-weapons-laws-part-4.html

 

[texas_teacher]

The definition of professional sporting event is my main point. While I believe that is the accepted definition, it is not in stone. And since he took that statement directly fom my Blog, I believe my clarification is justified. http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/blogs/txinvestigator/14-basic-texas-weapons-laws-part-4.html

So just because you are justified a person isn't allowed to expand upon the general concept?

 

[txinvestigator]

So just because you are justified a person isn't allowed to expand upon the general concept?

I am not sure what you mean.???

You seemed to have taken issue with my clarification that the phrase taken from my blog was not part of the law. I simply explained why i did so.

 

[smschulz]

Just for clarification, the phrase "A professional sporting event is one in which the participants are paid for their participation. This includes your typical professional sports, NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB, etc, as well as NASCAR and some rodeo events" does not appear in the law.

I guess it could be a point of debate whether a practice is an 'event' or not as oppossed to a public game.
I would tend it most likely is but it is not entirely clear.
Better to be safe than sorry.

 

[dessl]

Give it a try, but have a friend record it for U-tube.

 

[texas_teacher]

Give it a try, but have a friend record it for U-tube.

I mean the entire conversation is a mute point because the only way anyone is going to notice you having a weapon is if you are printing, if you make a comment about it or you doing something else retarded prompting a patdown.

 

[Medic218]

I didnt carry but could have. not so much as a wand on anyone who entered.

 

[txinvestigator]

It is also a moot point. lol

 

[mdehoogh]

I have seen metal detectors in use at the AAC before. I was at a Stars game last Feb/Mar and there were guards with wands waving over people as we came in. They weren't wanding everybody though.. seemed like it was mostly people with bags or big purses although none of the women in my group were 'scanned'

 

[mtaylor]

I guess it could be a point of debate whether a practice is an 'event' or not as oppossed to a public game.
I would tend it most likely is but it is not entirely clear.
Better to be safe than sorry.

Just because it is practice does not mean the participants are not paid to be there. It is a job like anything else. They are paid. It is an event. It is illegal to carry.

Of course, that's just my opinion.

 

[OLDVET]

Give them a call and get their position on concealed carry.
I know you can carry at the State Fair of Texas. A friend of mine teaches the Texas Concealed Handgun classes. He and his wife carry each time they go to the fair. They always get hassled at the gate. When this happens they request that a supervisor be called. My friend explains the Texas law to them and they are then allowed to enter with their weapons. One problem at the ACC is that alcohol is sold at their events. The ACC may fall under the same category as a bar.