Dietary self experimentation.

[Clockwork]

I'm transitioning from Paleo to 80/10/10 Raw Vegan (for health reasons rather than ethical reasons as most vegans do) to see how it affects my performance and how I feel on the diet. It's pretty wildly different from how I normally eat. No meat, no dairy, no grains, and no corn. I'll be eating a ton of fruits and leafy greens along with some soy, legumes, nuts, and seeds.

More to come.

 

[scgstuff]

Hope it works out for you and whatever the health issues are clear up. I don't think I could give up meat, though....that would be tough for me.

 

[Clockwork]

No issues, I just know the government lies to Americans about what is or is not healthy to eat.

 

[TxDad]

Your are a bigger man than me. I wouldnt try that. Theres nothing good left if you dont eat meat...

 

[Clockwork]

Your are a bigger man than me. I wouldnt try that. Theres nothing good left if you dont eat meat...

Believe me, I understand. My philosophy is: If humans aren't meant to eat animals... then why are they made of meat?

 

[Texas1911]

Virtually every strict vegan / vegetarian type I've known has had nothing but constant health issues and horrible mood swings. They won't admit to this, but it's my observation. I will say that most people that eat vegetarian in the loose sense (white meat) tend to do pretty well for themselves. They manage their weight well and don't have the above issues.

 

[nalioth]

Vegan/vegetarian couples have been charged with child abuse/endangerment because a meatless diet is unhealthy, and it doesn't allow children to grow properly.

I can understand going to a "low meat" or "very low meat" diet, but I'd never go "meatless".

There are required proteins in meat that you can't get from soy or fruits or nuts. . .

 

[navyguy]

I think it's pretty hard to get enough protein without animal products. Meat, (red meat, fowl and sea food) eggs, milk and the like. Especially if you do any strenuous exercise. Lack of protein with exercise can actually cause loss of muscle. Nuts, soy, and legumes will provide some, but as I understand it (not an expert just casually read some things) protein from these sources are not as readily processed by the body, as animal protein.

Good luck.

 

[Clockwork]

I've heard all that before and I don't disagree. Which is why it's experimentation. I love me some meat. (no homo)

I'd be happy on an all meat diet.

 

[scap99]

Humans are omnivores.
Moderation and balance are the hard parts.

Good luck on your venture.

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[Clockwork]

Humans are omnivores.

We are, but the government pumps all of our food full of chemicals that make us ill.

 

[scap99]

No arguments here.


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[Clockwork]

So, Day 1, kinda hungry and I'm definitely craving a big lamb chop or some salmon. I suspected that I might just be hungry because I'm not taking in enough water so I just drank 32oz and that helped a bit.

 

[TxDad]

CW your going to run out of energy. If I try for salads as a main meal, few times a day and skip out of my reg meats, I get really tired. Even with the protein shakes. Its not the same. But do keep us updated.
Just so you know, Im going to have a fat ass burger tonight...

 

[DaRedneck]

I guess you've got more will power than I do. Good luck.

 

[Clockwork]

CW your going to run out of energy. If I try for salads as a main meal, few times a day and skip out of my reg meats, I get really tired. Even with the protein shakes. Its not the same. But do keep us updated.
Just so you know, Im going to have a fat ass burger tonight...

I don't think I'm going to run out of energy because by eating a metric crap ton of fruits and vegetables I'll be taking in a lot of carbohydrates. We'll see. I'm pretty in tune with my body and the hows and whys I feel a certain way. I'm bound to feel odd when I basically bust a nutritional 180 on my system from going to a high fat zero carb diet to a high carb low fat diet. There are actually a lot of athletes that eat a 80/10/10 raw vegan ("811rv") diet and are fine with it. I don't think my measley 6 mile a day runs plus weight training can stack up to what these folks typically do:

Vegan Raw Food Health and Fitness, 80/10/10 Diet, blog and articles by Dr. Douglas Graham

 

[Clockwork]

Right now at a little after four in the afternoon I haven't had a meal since 11:30 and I feel fine after I drank that water. I haven't been getting as much water this week as I'm used to getting. I need to get like one of those big gallon jugs and take it to work with me.

My lunch consisted of some blackberries, pineapple chunks, and one mango.

 

[scap99]

do you grow your own veggies?
Might could get some local meat that is minimally processed...

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[Clockwork]

do you grow your own veggies?
Might could get some local meat that is minimally processed...

I wish! I do try to buy local produce from farmers markets whenever possible instead of going to HEB.

 

[Tejano Scott]

Best of luck. Thats gonna take some hardcore dedication, but I'm sure it will pay off!