Driver's License requirement for CHL

[Willy]

I was checking in with the officer at the Fair and she asked for my driver's license also. She told me that my CHL was no good without my DL also. I wanted to tell her that she was full of hooey, but I didn't want the hassle after paying to get the whole family into the fair. I've never read it in the handbook, but what do the experts say?

Edit: I think I found what she was talking about. $411.205

 

[txinvestigator]

She is wrong. You are under ZERO obligation to show anyone your DL other than LE if they ask you to ID yourself. In fact, you do not need a DL to obtain a CHL. A Texas ID card will do

EDIT: I missed the fact that it was an officer. Your CHL is not "invalid" without your DL, but technically if an officer asks you to ID you must show both. Make sense?

 

[Glockster69]

Interesting question Willy. Since I have both licenses I'm unaffected BUT, what if you don't drive and have no need for a DL? Is a DL required to get the CHL? (BTW: I think 2nd answer is a no)

Can't wait to see how this plays out.

ETA: 2min to late

 

[shortround]

Some jurisdictions will accept a TX CHL at face value, but not many.

A prerequisite is to have a TXDL or TXID.

A United States Passport also suffices.

But no ID required to vote.

What is wrong with that?

 

[V-Tach]

GC §411.205. REQUIREMENT TO DISPLAY LICENSE.(a) If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.

If a resident CHL is carrying a firearm, he/she must have their TXID or TXDL with them..

A non-resident CHL must have a State issued ID/DL from their home State of residence.

While it doesn't invalidate the CHL (it is still a valid CHL), a person would be in violation of State statute w/o the ID/DL....

 

[Willy]

I guess I need to put my DL and my CHL in my pocket when I walk the dogs at night.

 

[Glockster69]

I never really thought about that but yeah, I guess so. As soon as my CHL came in it went behind my DL in a windowed wallet pocket. They stay together.

 

[itchin]

My chl is a folded up copy of the U.S. Constitution.

 

[Glockster69]

I hear ya but, good luck with that in the real world itchin




Just sayin ....

 

[lalonguecarabine]

My chl is a folded up copy of the U.S. Constitution.

Hahahahaha... that's just silly.

 

[Bithabus]

I guess I need to put my DL and my CHL in my pocket when I walk the dogs at night.

If you want to, but in reality the penalty for violating that rule was removed long ago. If you choose not to show your DL with your CHL (or your CHL with your DL) there is absolutely nothing that can happen to you.

 

[txinvestigator]

If you want to, but in reality the penalty for violating that rule was removed long ago. If you choose not to show your DL with your CHL (or your CHL with your DL) there is absolutely nothing that can happen to you.

Folks just remember, if you carry without your CHL in your possession you violate 46.02.

 

[Bithabus]

Folks just remember, if you carry without your CHL in your possession you violate 46.02.

That's true but that has nothing to do with what I said.

 

[txinvestigator]

That's true but that has nothing to do with what I said.

I know. Just clarifying for everyone. You don't mind that, do you?

 

[ROGER4314]

OK, If you want to kick the subject around on TGT that's one thing. If you're going to debate the law with a LEO during a traffic stop or when the LEO requests your ID, you are simply going to lose. It's Like we used to say in the Texas prison system when an Offender bucked the rules......."I'll find a way to make you unhappy." The LEO that you buck will do the same.

We had another response in the prisons that might be worth sharing....."Why don't you just march up to the Warden's office and tell him how you feel about that!" In the lockup, the Warden is GOD! Jack with the Warden and he will put you under the jail for the remainder of your sentence.

For the few minutes that an LEO has you in ID mode, he has that power over you. Buck him and he WILL find a way to make you unhappy. It's best to go with the flow and do as you're asked to do.

Flash

 

[lalonguecarabine]

OK, If you want to kick the subject around on TGT that's one thing. If you're going to debate the law with a LEO during a traffic stop or when the LEO requests your ID, you are simply going to lose. It's Like we used to say in the Texas prison system when an Offender bucked the rules......."I'll find a way to make you unhappy." The LEO that you buck will do the same.

We had another response in the prisons that might be worth sharing....."Why don't you just march up to the Warden's office and tell him how you feel about that!" In the lockup, the Warden is GOD! Jack with the Warden and he will put you under the jail for the remainder of your sentence.

For the few minutes that an LEO has you in ID mode, he has that power over you. Buck him and he WILL find a way to make you unhappy. It's best to go with the flow and do as you're asked to do.

Flash

True. Surprisingly, that's a hard concept for some on this forum.

 

[Bughole]

Going through TSA to board, didn't pay attntion and handd agent my CHL. She said she needed an offical ID card issued by a State.

 

[alexrex20]

The walking the dogs comment got me thinking... Who carries their CHL separate from their TDL?

 

[V-Tach]

I know that I'm a n00b around here, and this is only my humble opinion.....

Why would we not do, what we are required? It would seem to me, that we should be professional and stand up folks while carrying (and at all times for that matter). How we conduct ourselves in public and with law enforcement reflects on all CHL's.....

and no, it doesn't change what Bithabus posted as being technically true......

Again, jmho....

 

[deemus]

I never really thought about that but yeah, I guess so. As soon as my CHL came in it went behind my DL in a windowed wallet pocket. They stay together.

Is it true you put your Victoria's Secret frequent shopper card behind those?