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[majormadmax]

We visited the National Museum of the Pacific War today, and there still are no 30.06 or 30.07 signs.

Just a suggestion, but if you want to get into a "WWII vibe" before going, have breakfast or an early lunch at the Fredericksburg Airport Diner. Good food and you can watch planes take off and land while you eat. Seating is limited, and it's popular so you may have to wait to get in; but you can check out the Hangar Hotel next door while you're waiting!

The Nimitz Museum is closed for restoration, but will reopen in November. We were told to hang on to our tickets and we'll get admittance once it's open.

 

[popper]

Been working on the Nimitz for a while. Do they have the other PT boat up yet? Much better than the nasa museum, no kid games. Lots of China/Japan early history leading up to WWI. Another good one is in KC at the WWI Memorial Mall. The old riverboat pulled out of the ground at river key is great too. Miss the one in Jef City that had a scale model of the Big Mo and must be a divisions worth of rifles in racks all around the walls like the stacks in a library. Muzzle loaders to Garands.

 

[leVieux]

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Just where, under our U S Constitution, do they find authority to do these things?

leVieux

 

[txinvestigator]

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Just where, under our U S Constitution, do they find authority to do these things?

leVieux

Run museums?

 

[majormadmax]

Been working on the Nimitz for a while. Do they have the other PT boat up yet? Much better than the nasa museum, no kid games. Lots of China/Japan early history leading up to WWI. Another good one is in KC at the WWI Memorial Mall. The old riverboat pulled out of the ground at river key is great too. Miss the one in Jef City that had a scale model of the Big Mo and must be a divisions worth of rifles in racks all around the walls like the stacks in a library. Muzzle loaders to Garands.

The PT boat is a couple blocks down in the same location where they do the re-enactments. I have pics, but they're on my laptop at home.

All in all, the National Museum of the Pacific War was OK but to be honest it has a lot more graphics and information out than actual artifacts. It seems to be more geared toward those who are looking to learn the history of WWII in the Pacific than those looking for items on display from that era. I feel the Texas Military Forces Museum at Camp Mabry in Austin is actually better in that regard, but its focus is obviously more broad time-wise and more narrow in scope. I would highly recommend their "Hands on History" events where they allow people (for a price) to "climb inside a M4A3 Sherman tank, a German Hetzer, WWII and post war era jeeps, a Kiowa and Raven helicopter, US and German halftracks and M113 and more. Weapons from the Civil War through the War on Terror will be available to touch and pick up. Including all the standard infantry weapons and anti tank weapons: items like the M1863 Springfield, Krag-Jorgenson, Japanese type 99, BAR, German MP 40, Russian AK-47s, M1-D sniper rifle, and many, many more. Uniformed reenactors will also be available to discuss the history of each weapon." The next one is 20 July from 5:00 pm - 9:00 pm.

I tend to visit a lot of military museums, I recently got to the Airborne and Special Forces Museum in Fayetteville, the Technik Museum Sinsheim in Germany, and will be revisiting the Pearl Harbor Aviation Museum on Ford Island, O'ahu in the near future, and I would not place the one in Fredericksburg high on my list of favorites.

Don't get me wrong, we had a great time there and I recommend it to anyone interested in WWII history; but I felt it could have used a lot less details about the events that occurred (I can read or watch documentaries to learn about that) and more items to see in person...

 

[Wildcat Diva]

I was recently at Fort Davis, which has a spectacular hiking trail on the site. We noticed the sign at the office and did not carry for our trip there. I did NOT like not carrying while hiking. However, later I was researching and came to the conclusion that ONLY the office at Fort Davis was off limits for carry as a National Park status, the grounds were fine to carry. I think I was looking up info for national parks and determined this.

 

[BillFairbanks]

IPhone app might not be the best source of information. Parking lot is not included in definition a federal facility. You can look it up for yourself. 18 U.S.C. § 930 : US Code - Section 930: Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities

Parking lot at the Post Office is off limits but that is for a different reason.

30.06 has nothing to do with a weapon in your vehicle because inside your vehicle you are not carrying on the authority of your CHL. You may legally drive past that sign.

What about this sign at the gate of the DFW National Cemetery?

It says “on this property”. It makes it difficult for me to visit my Mother’s grave. The cemetery is an hour away from my home. I drive by it a lot while working, however I’m always carrying. So, I can’t just visit the cemetery while I’m in the area. I have to make a special 2 hour round trip to leave my gun at home.




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[majormadmax]

What about this sign at the gate of the DFW National Cemetery?

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It says “on this property”. It makes it difficult for me to visit my Mother’s grave. The cemetery is an hour away from my home. I drive by it a lot while working, however I’m always carrying. So, I can’t just visit the cemetery while I’m in the area. I have to make a special 2 hour round trip to leave my gun at home.

Easiest thing to do is read USC 18 Section 930...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/930

In a nutshell, per that code the term “Federal facility” means "a building or part thereof owned or leased by the Federal Government, where Federal employees are regularly present for the purpose of performing their official duties."

In other words, as long as you don't go into any Federal buildings armed, you are not in violation of USC 18 Sec 930.

 

[Bithabus]

What about this sign at the gate of the DFW National Cemetery?

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It says “on this property”. It makes it difficult for me to visit my Mother’s grave. The cemetery is an hour away from my home. I drive by it a lot while working, however I’m always carrying. So, I can’t just visit the cemetery while I’m in the area. I have to make a special 2 hour round trip to leave my gun at home.

In my post you quoted I provided a link to 18 USC 930. A "Federal facility" does not include a road, parking lot, etc. Only buildings. So, you are not in violation as long as you don't enter any buildings. You may legally carry to visit your Mother's grave. Works the same way in National parks etc.

 

[leVieux]

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Again, please tell me just where, under our U. S. Constitution, could they find authority to deny citizens a specified, enumerated CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT ?

"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" ?

I'll wait.

leVieux

 

[kbaxter60]

 

[gshayd]

Are you still waiting?

 

[seeker_two]

It only becomes illegal when they arrest youfor it......

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[Wiliamr]

It only becomes illegal when they arrest youfor it......

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No: they arrest you because it is illegal. When they arrest you it becomes very expensive.

 

[pharmaco]

IPhone app might not be the best source of information. Parking lot is not included in definition a federal facility. You can look it up for yourself. 18 U.S.C. § 930 : US Code - Section 930: Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities

Parking lot at the Post Office is off limits but that is for a different reason.

30.06 has nothing to do with a weapon in your vehicle because inside your vehicle you are not carrying on the authority of your CHL. You may legally drive past that sign.

There's a post office in Austin (far west blvd) that is in a strip mall.

Is the entire parking lot no go?

How about the connected businesses

 

[Big Dipper]

Only the NW corner per Travis county property records

 

[pharmaco]

Only the NW corner per Travis county property records View attachment 178165

Thanks!!

 

[Bithabus]

There's a post office in Austin (far west blvd) that is in a strip mall.

Is the entire parking lot no go?

How about the connected businesses

Just the areas owned or leased by the Post Office

 

[majormadmax]

There is a general store in Rio Medina that believes the entire facility is off-limits because the USPS rents out a small counter in the back...

http://www.texasguntalk.com/threads/contract-postal-units-and-39-cfr-§232-1.76992/

 

[BRD@66]

Just the areas owned or leased by the Post Office

I wish my post office had a parking lot like that.