First to Be Charged Under Bump Stock Ban

[cycleguy2300]

Kinda reminds me of the individual in California they were trying to prosecute about a rig he had set up to help people "complete" their 80% AR lowers. The Feds supposedly ended up throwing out the case over the law referring to "firearms" instead of just the lowers.

I have not heard anything about it since.

I think it would be cool to have a CNC bar where you could buy a 80% lower. Then hang out and have a beer while it was completed while you were on site.

Or

a CNC vending machine where you pick the lower, some features or profiles. Swipe your card and it completes the lower while you stand there.

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[cvgunman]

I think it would be cool to have a CNC bar where you could buy a 80% lower. Then hang out and have a beer while it was completed while you were on site.

Or

a CNC vending machine where you pick the lower, some features or profiles. Swipe your card and it completes the lower while you stand there.

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That's sort of what was going on in CA a few years back. They would have "parties" where you could get an 80% lower and by the time you left the party, you could have a completed firearm. I even heard they sold some NFA type features, though I have never been to one. The local ATF agents that I knew were all about people getting them, they just wanted to know where they were being finished. The ATF did bust a ring of guys making AK's out of flats? and I guess these guys were selling them to the cartels.

 

[Renegade]

Gonna be tough to win in court. There are a lot of ex-ATF expert witnesses who will testify it is not a MG. There lots of documents, and paper trail it is not a MG. So I do not see any convictions, unless Billy represents himself.

But they did succeed in preventing them from being made anymore.

 

[jrbfishn]

They succeeded in shutting down the manufacturer. Until it gets shot down in court.


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[Texasjack]

Sounds like they didn't need that charge in order to put the guy away for a long time. They probably didn't want to risk a court ruling that set back the "ban", so they just tossed that one out.

 

[Axxe55]

Well, I only got to read the first part of the article. (said I reached my limit for article reading!)

IMO, the bumpstock charge was the least of his worries!

 

[Texasjack]

Well, I only got to read the first part of the article. (said I reached my limit for article reading!)

IMO, the bumpstock charge was the least of his worries!

The rest of the article didn't add much to the story. You can't expect much actual journalism from The Chronicle.

 

[tonelar]

y’all are right, aside from the bumpstock, he’s being charged for owning firearms and ammo despite being a prohibited person under federal law.

Houston man becomes 1st person known to be charged after Trump administration's bump stock ban

The case is believed to be the first involving illegal possession of bump stocks since the law was implemented in March 2019.

abcnews.go.com

 

[candcallen]

Distinction without a difference.


For him atleast.

 

[Younggun]

Sadly it didn’t really backfire at all.


They dropped the charge because they had plenty of other stuff to hit him with leaving the us in the same situation we’ve been in since the ban was enacted.

Not much of a win, IMO.


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[Bozz10mm]

This happened in September 2019. I wonder how it turned out.

 

[Axxe55]

This happened in September 2019. I wonder how it turned out.

If I had to guess, the courts are probably delayed, or backed up with things from the Covid 19.

 

[oldag]

Would have liked toread the article but a pop-up said I had reached my article limit. I don't think I have ever read an article from them before.

Clear your cookies.

 

[oldag]

Sadly it didn’t really backfire at all.


They dropped the charge because they had plenty of other stuff to hit him with leaving the us in the same situation we’ve been in since the ban was enacted.

Not much of a win, IMO.


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That was pretty much my reaction.

 

[cycleguy2300]

Sadly it didn’t really backfire at all.


They dropped the charge because they had plenty of other stuff to hit him with leaving the us in the same situation we’ve been in since the ban was enacted.

Not much of a win, IMO.


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It signals to me they lack confidence in the outcome and would prefer to have the threat of prosecution over having a judge laugh them out of the court.

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[Axxe55]

It signals to me they lack confidence in the outcome and would prefer to have the threat of prosecution over having a judge laugh them out of the court.

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In this case, they probable knew they had enough to get a conviction without bringing the bumpstock charge, and knew it was really a moot point, and maybe felt it could have hurt their chances of getting a conviction on the other charges?

Now where it would get interesting, is if they arrest some law-abiding gun owner, and the bumpstock charge is all they have to bring to court!

 

[Glenn B]

Clear your cookies.

Never knew that would work, thanks.

ETA: It did not work after all.

 

[oldag]

Never knew that would work, thanks.

ETA: It did not work after all.

Sorry. Worked for me.

Often the sites that tell you you have exceeded the number of visits records the number of visits in cookies. When you clear them, the count starts over.

 

[Younggun]

It signals to me they lack confidence in the outcome and would prefer to have the threat of prosecution over having a judge laugh them out of the court.

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While true, it still doesn’t really change out position.


The case didn’t go through the courts so anyone who might have kept a bumpstock or anyone who wants one will still be on the roster as a test case and will likely have to dump many thousands of dollars as well as sit for an unknown amount of time in prison while the case is pending.

That’s more than enough to maintain the effect of the ban.


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[cycleguy2300]

While true, it still doesn’t really change out position.


The case didn’t go through the courts so anyone who might have kept a bumpstock or anyone who wants one will still be on the roster as a test case and will likely have to dump many thousands of dollars as well as sit for an unknown amount of time in prison while the case is pending.

That’s more than enough to maintain the effect of the ban.


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Oh yes, I agree.

I'm not saying a new day has dawned, I'm just hoping I am seeing sky glow in the east...

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