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Fort Worth Officer kills woman in her own home

Discussion in 'News Articles' started by BillFairbanks, Oct 12, 2019.

  1. mongoose

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    Try reading the post again!

    She did not shoot anyone so there is nothing to justify. The Officer needed to ID himself, otherwise he is fair game if he slinks around my home shining a flashlight into and around my home. We have had too many examples of BGs impersonating a LEO and wearing a uniform. She showed more restraint than a trained Officer. She essentially was SWATed by her neighbor.
     


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  2. toddnjoyce

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    Uh, nope. The neighbor requested a welfare check through a non-emergency line.
     
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  4. mongoose

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    Uh, nope. The neighbor requested a welfare check through a non-emergency line.

    Ah, nope. A welfare check was never mentioned. An open door report was made.
     
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    First... please show me where "lethal force" was used by the victim? Second, by the incidents as provided thus far publicly, by everything I have read thus far, she sure as shit had a right to be concerned for her safety and a right to use lethal force, if necessary, to protect against what any reasonable person would have perceived as "criminal mischief" during the nighttime hours.

    Sure they are, if they are actually investigating "suspicious circumstances" that warrant such type of investigation. Again, by any reasonable measure, with facts presented thus far, an open door (esp if there was a closed screen door in its place, on a cool Texas night (especially at a home with folks who are actually still up/moving around their own home), isn't one of those scenarios. Sorry... "staying up late to play video games at your own home" isn't a crime of any sort... I don't give a rats arss that a "concerned neighbor" called into the "non emergency" line...

    I see no reported shots fired by the victim, here... you're conflating a what if with what actually happened. Point moot.

    That's the problem here, you're conflating again... I don't see any "legitimate threat", and if the officer perceived one, he created the scenario himself, and that is not a defendable position for ending someone else's life. If you don't see this, I am not sure anyone can help you understand.

    I agree 100% that the officer act prematurely... the rest of this? I disagree, 100%.

    You're just wobbling here, if the officer is claiming that, he shot her based on a perceived threat of lethal force, then she either was in her rights to use lethal force to defend herself from her own perception of a threat or she wasn't - remember the circumstance, she's in her own home, with a child, at 2-3am, and "someone" is creeping around her home with a flashlight, and whispering without announcing they are there, simply (supposedly?) for a welfare or open door "check". You believe she wasn't within her rights, others believe she was, let's see how the court feels.

    This is probably the smartest line of your entire post!
     
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  7. toddnjoyce

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    “Officers responded to the call from witness James Smith, who said he used a non-emergency number and not 911 for the call because it was only a welfare check and not an emergency.”

    https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/1...th-Home-Early-Saturday-Morning-562919781.html

    Until a transcript of the call, or better yet a recording of the call is released, I guess there’s going to be disagreement on what was said on the phone call, what was recorded in the dispatch system, and what was reported to the responding officers.

    However, once that call was made is where the shit comes off the rails....what/how people expect LEOs to respond may not be what actually occurs, because most people have zero knowledge of LE processes and tactics, nor should they be expected to.
     
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    Apparently reported to the Officers as an open building ( burglary) call.
     
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