Fox news in Ohio covers open carry of a firearm

[Charlie]

Do you think its fair for LE to push local businesses post signs to ban weapons?Some people would think it might be a hint that they would be served better if they did what LE tells them.That to me seems like LE is "TESTING" the law.

This may have been a political venue, not necessarily from the rank and file officers. In many commuities the mayor (or city council, or county commissioners) makes these types of decisions and the opinion of the police may have nothing to do with what the folks downtown are pushing. Kinda' like parents blaming the teachers or campus administrators at a school for all the rules the students have to follow that are sent down from the school board (elected citizens!).

Edit to add: No, it's not fair (whatever that means?) for law enforcement to push any agenda, in my opinion. They are out there for law enforcement and the overall safety of the community (citizens). They sometimes enforce laws they don't like. Pushing local businesses to do anything like this becomes strictly politics, and stinks............like politics usually does.

 

[APatriot]

This constant attitude of trying to proves cops wrong, make them look foolish and bash LE has grown stale....

No offense was intended. My experience has been simply LE for the most part lacks an "on the job" understanding of CC laws. I am pro-LE to the extent the "state" doesn't use them to infringe upon my Constitutional Rights.

 

[Texan2]

LE consistantly has to attend legislative update classes. It is unfortunate that your experience has been that LE lacks understanding. The officers that I know appear to understand how it works pretty well... Prosecutors differ from area to area but often instruct LE how they want cetain laws interpreted. What you consider an infringment the courts may not.

 

[APatriot]

LE consistantly has to attend legislative update classes. It is unfortunate that your experience has been that LE lacks understanding. The officers that I know appear to understand how it works pretty well... Prosecutors differ from area to area but often instruct LE how they want cetain laws interpreted. What you consider an infringment the courts may not.

Of course any infringement begins with the courts, and of course I can only speak from "my" experience. LE are simply "tools" of the state, and they do serve a purpose thank God.

 

[MR Redneck]

That is consistent with my experience. I grew up in NY...

Oh Yea? I have been to Binghampton. I always thought NY people were all liberals idiots. The first time I went up there I noticed most of them were no different than me. The rural people explained its the "city" for the most part that make them look bad. I like it up there but they all sound funny.

 

[Bithabus]

Oh Yea? I have been to Binghampton. I always thought NY people were all liberals idiots. The first time I went up there I noticed most of them were no different than me. The rural people explained its the "city" for the most part that make them look bad. I like it up there but they all sound funny.

They think you sound funny

Many States are ruined by populous liberal voting cities.

 

[Texan2]

LE are simply "tools" of the state

I think I just got called a "tool".....

 

[MR Redneck]

I think I just got called a "tool".....

I dont think thats what he was implying.
Maybe his thought are pretty much the same as mine.
Such as;
Legislature make's laws that are no damn good and infringe on people rights. As a result, the law enforcement and courts have to enforce the stupid shit.
When the Constituents of Texas Politics start getting involved more often, I think we will see a great change that will better our communities.

While on the subjet, how many laws have you been expected to enforce that you didnt agree with?

 

[M. Sage]

I wonder if this thread will stay on point, or be inundated with nonsense.

Like unsubstantiated "what-ifs"?

 

[Texan2]

I dont think thats what he was implying.
Maybe his thought are pretty much the same as mine.
Such as;
Legislature make's laws that are no damn good and infringe on people rights.

While on the subjet, how many laws have you been expected to enforce that you didnt agree with?

I was kidding, I know what he meant. Just the way it read....""LE is a tool of the courts". Gave me a chuckle.
As far as enforcing laws I dont agree with? There are a few. But my job isnt to enforce the laws I agree with. There has to be a standard and in our form of government the legislature sets what the standard will be.

 

[Greg_TX]

Test question for our LE personnel on site: At "Clicks" near Hollister and Pinemont, they have a sign outside which says: "The licensed or unlicensed carry of firearms on the premises is illegal". Does this sign apply to CHL holders?

Not an LEO, but I used to fish (err... play) there before and I would think they'd post it as a 51% place. If open carry applied, I'd think you'd have a hard time finding money games at the tables. :-)

Besides, if it's not 51% then the sign would need to be 30.06 compliant, wouldn't it?

 

[M. Sage]

Besides, if it's not 51% then the sign would need to be 30.06 compliant, wouldn't it?

Yep.

 

[APatriot]

Yep.

FYI, no 51% posted.

 

[jsimmons]

That article is almost 2 years old...

 

[M. Sage]

FYI, no 51% posted.

I don't remember - does 51% have to be posted? My crappy memory says it doesn't...

 

[Bithabus]

I don't remember - does 51% have to be posted? My crappy memory says it doesn't...

If it's not you get a defense to prosecution

 

[APatriot]

That article is almost 2 years old...

So what? Obama has been in office for 2 years and he is still "relevant" - in that he is doing his best to destroy my country!!