Gun(s) on private boat or PWC on TX waterways - legal?

[Acera]

There is nothing in COE rules about loaded or not.

Yes it does, it clearly states in 327.13 which deals with COE property.

§ 327.13

Explosives, firearms, other weapons and fireworks.
(a) The possession of loaded firearms, ammunition, loaded projectile firing devices, bows and arrows, crossbows, or other weapons is prohibited unless:

(1) In the possession of a Federal, state or local law enforcement officer;

(2) Being used for hunting or fishing as permitted under § 327.8, with devices being unloaded when transported to, from or between hunting and fishing sites;

(3) Being used at authorized shooting ranges; or

(4) Written permission has been received from the District Commander.

But with the possession of ammo in the same sentence it might make no difference.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/COERulesPamphlet.pdf

I have read plenty where some interpret that carrying unloaded is permissible ( based I think on the transportation clause in (2) ), after reading the above link, I don't think I would without written permission.

 

[txinvestigator]

Yes it does, it clearly states in 327.13 which deals with COE property.



But with the possession of ammo in the same sentence it might make no difference.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/COERulesPamphlet.pdf

I have read plenty where some interpret that carrying unloaded is permissible ( based I think on the transportation clause in (2) ), after reading the above link, I don't think I would without written permission.

Nice catch. That is 327.13 of what?

 

[Glockster69]

Looks like this is it:
36 CFR Chapter III - CORPS OF ENGINEERS, DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY

36 CFR Part 327 - RULES AND REGULATIONS GOVERNING PUBLIC USE OF WATER RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ADMINISTERED BY THE CHIEF OF ENGINEERS | Title 36 - Parks, Forests, and Public Property | Code of Federal Regulations | LII / Legal Information Instit

 

[Glockster69]

I just spoke with the Game Warden and he said:

As long as you operate under TX hunting laws you are fine. That's when I mentioned I am a CHL holder and was not hunting. He went on to say ...

A boat is treated no different than an auto, if you are acting in a LEGAL (all inclusive) manner with OR without a CHL you can have a handgun on a boat (watercraft).

Also Lake Livington is governed by the Trinity River Authority so if there is nothing in their regulations TPWD is ok with carrying a handgun. I have not yet searched TRA regs.

 

[txinvestigator]

I just spoke with the Game Warden and he said:

As long as you operate under TX hunting laws you are fine. That's when I mentioned I am a CHL holder and was not hunting. He went on to say ...

A boat is treated no different than an auto, if you are acting in a LEGAL (all inclusive) manner with OR without a CHL you can have a handgun on a boat (watercraft).

Also Lake Livington is governed by the Trinity River Authority so if there is nothing in their regulations TPWD is ok with carrying a handgun. I have not yet searched TRA regs.

As I told you, if it is not a COE lake you can carry. In 2011 watercraft was added to section 46.02 as places that are not off limits.

 

[PapaG]

Feds have been after all water for years. Lakes, ponds, creeks, water wells . Basically all above ground and below ground water. Thank God they have not seceded with this.

That would make Fed law apply on everything

 

[Shorts]

I googled direct for Lake Grapevine if anyone needs: U.S. Army Corps of Engineers - Welcome to Grapevine Lake

There's good maps in there under 'Lake Information' tab on the left that shows COE water & land property lines vs city/state. Good to know if you will be visiting the parks in the surrounding area.