HB 957 passed

[OutlawStar]

Apologies if this is dupe, i couldn't find another thread about HB957 here or the NFA section. Please move or delete as appropriate.

So HB 957 just passed per https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB957
A few websites have described the bill as

What this bill does:

• Repeal TX criminalization of suppressor possession apart from Federal regulations. (TX Penal Code 46.05(a)(6).)
• Establish a class of “Made in Texas” suppressors that must be manufactured in Texas from Texas-made parts, must stay in Texas, and are exempt from Federal regulations
• Give a path to secure a declaratory judgment on the constitutionality of this law before someone manufactures “Made in Texas” suppressors.

Its been a very long time since my high school government classes. Can someone spoon feed me what can happen next with this bill? Anyone know if we'll have 'legal' suppressors soon?

 

[rotor]

I really don't understand the logic of this unless they think the feds won't prosecute (like marijuana). Someone besides me will have to be the test case for this.

 

[OutlawStar]

So true, its nearly identical to federal marijuana laws. Either individuals get popped for federal crimes, or the manufacturers get hit. I'll bet the ATF goes after manufactures before individuals, except a select few to get legal precedent. I'm optimistic because they don't bother with marijuana grow farms, dispensaries, or individuals.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Ask the disabled KS vet sitting in a federal pound ‘em in the ašš prison how well their ‘Made in KS’ suppressor law worked out. Fun idea, but ends with the public getting anally raped.

This law should never have passed.

2 Kansas men 'collateral damage' in gun control dispute

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) — The unregistered gun silencers, each stamped "Made in Kansas, were arranged in a display case at a military surplus store in a rural Kansas town. Beside them was a copy of a...

apnews.com

 

[kenboyles72]

It also depends on where you're at. Around here, aint nobody gonna enforce or rat someone out over a suppressor.

 

[seeker_two]

Any law like this that doesn't include the provision that Texas law enforcement officials and citizens can use any means to prevent federal enforcement up to and including deadly force is meaningless.....

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[vmax]

This bill may be all for show..
One major teir of this bills language says that the Federal Court has to approve it before it goes into effect and people can start producing Made In Texss Suppressors..
What are those odds?

 

[vmax]

Got that from The Truth About Guns article

 

[EZ-E]

Ask the disabled KS vet sitting in a federal pound ‘em in the ašš prison how well their ‘Made in KS’ suppressor law worked out. Fun idea, but ends with the public getting anally raped.

This law should never have passed.

2 Kansas men 'collateral damage' in gun control dispute

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) — The unregistered gun silencers, each stamped "Made in Kansas, were arranged in a display case at a military surplus store in a rural Kansas town. Beside them was a copy of a...

apnews.com

This is the disturbing statement in that article.

"President Donald Trump’s administration had asked the court to leave the convictions in place."


From what i remember about the story when it happened, he was posting on social media about his new toy. Im pretty sure that got the flags going for the feds.

 

[OneGunTX]

Ask the disabled KS vet sitting in a federal pound ‘em in the ašš prison how well their ‘Made in KS’ suppressor law worked out. Fun idea, but ends with the public getting anally raped.

This law should never have passed.

2 Kansas men 'collateral damage' in gun control dispute

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) — The unregistered gun silencers, each stamped "Made in Kansas, were arranged in a display case at a military surplus store in a rural Kansas town. Beside them was a copy of a...

apnews.com

Being a guinea pig for a state's rights case sucks. However, the two gentlemen were not sentenced to prison. They are, however, convicted felons.

2 Kansas men spared prison in prosecution over state gun law

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) — A federal judge spared from prison two Kansas men convicted of federal firearms violations after taking into account Monday their mistaken belief that a Kansas law can shield from federal prosecution anyone owning firearms made, sold and kept in the state. The sentence...

apnews.com

 

[Rob300C]

Sounded promising, but until the ATF is effectively kicked out of Texas, not sure it amounts to much.

Also, I’m all for kicking the ATF out of Texas. Can we get that bill written and voted on?

 

[NTMock]

I really don't understand the logic of this unless they think the feds won't prosecute (like marijuana). Someone besides me will have to be the test case for this.

That is what the declaratory judgement is all about.

 

[easy rider]

It would be more promising if the state of Texas also declared themselves a 2A sanctuary state.

 

[kenboyles72]

It would be more promising if the state of Texas also declared themselves a 2A sanctuary state.

Don't remember the bill number and what the status is, but there was such a bill.

Edit:
Found it. https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB2622

Seems the bill failed to pass the Senate

Edit #2:

I don't really know wtf is going on with this bill. The above link says it failed a Senate vote, but a twitter post by the bill's author said it passed the Senate 21hrs ago.

 

[vmax]

I'm on the fence as to why this bill was passed..was it done for show..knowing it wouldn't pass Fed courts or was it done to test the courts and start a bigger battle that would help us in the end.

 

[easy rider]

I'm on the fence as to why this bill was passed..was it done for show..knowing it wouldn't pass Fed courts or was it done to test the courts and start a bigger battle that would help us in the end.

You mean the same courts that stated Texas didn't have any standing, when charging that other states violated the constitution in changing their voting laws through non-legislative means?

 

[cycleguy2300]

I really don't understand the logic of this unless they think the feds won't prosecute (like marijuana). Someone besides me will have to be the test case for this.

The logic is if it can get to SCOTUS they could do one of four things;
1: refuse to hear the case
2: rule Texas doesn't have the authority
3: strike down some or all if the NFA
4: Accept Texas' reasoning and allow in state cans to be made and used in state.

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[toddnjoyce]

The logic is if it can get to SCOTUS they could do one of four things;
1: refuse to hear the case
2: rule Texas doesn't have the authority
3: strike down some or all if the NFA
4: Accept Texas' reasoning and allow in state cans to be made and used in state.

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Yes; considering option 1 has already been exercised, I’m not optimistic for any of the other options.

 

[easy rider]

The logic is if it can get to SCOTUS they could do one of four things;
1: refuse to hear the case
2: rule Texas doesn't have the authority
3: strike down some or all if the NFA
4: Accept Texas' reasoning and allow in state cans to be made and used in state.

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The federal government was only supposed to be the arbitrator of state laws that either went against the constitution, or affected other states. Our forefathers knew that laws should never be blanket laws for all states. What's good for one state, doesn't mean it's good for all. Unfortunately, the federal government of today is not what they had intended.

As far as SCOTUS, well, they've already shown that the constitution only matters if they decide to rule on it.

 

[EZ-E]

The federal government was only supposed to be the arbitrator of state laws that either went against the constitution, or affected other states. Our forefathers knew that laws should never be blanket laws for all states. What's good for one state, doesn't mean it's good for all. Unfortunately, the federal government of today is not what they had intended.

As far as SCOTUS, well, they've already shown that the constitution only matters if they decide to rule on it.

Sounds like tyranny to me....