HB 957 passed

[Millerwb]

Being a guinea pig for a state's rights case sucks. However, the two gentlemen were not sentenced to prison. They are, however, convicted felons.

2 Kansas men spared prison in prosecution over state gun law

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) — A federal judge spared from prison two Kansas men convicted of federal firearms violations after taking into account Monday their mistaken belief that a Kansas law can shield from federal prosecution anyone owning firearms made, sold and kept in the state. The sentence...

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There is a very big difference in the KS law and the TX law. The KS law stated that the suppressor could be manufactured anywhere but if they were sold and stayed in KS then the NFA rules didn’t apply. The problem is that Congress and the Feds get to control Interstate Commerce. The TX law states that the entire suppressor has to be manufactured in TX and stay in TX. Therefore it would be Intrastate Commerce and the Feds cannot regulate.

It is an interesting tactic and I will be watching to see if it is successful. It is also interesting to read the actual text of the TX and KS laws to see the difference.

 

[TheDan]

The TX law states that the entire suppressor has to be manufactured in TX and stay in TX. Therefore it would be Intrastate Commerce and the Feds cannot regulate.

Unfortunately even if you started by digging up iron ore on your own property and smelting it to eventually make your suppressor, SCOTUS still considers that interstate commerce.

 

[DoubleDuty]

We need to work on getting rid of the NFA completely.

 

[Rhino]

Unfortunately even if you started by digging up iron ore on your own property and smelting it to eventually make your suppressor, SCOTUS still considers that interstate commerce.

And they are wrong, just like they are wrong that it's morally ok to kill a human with a heartbeat.

 

[TheDan]

And they are wrong

Of course they are, but that doesn't stop the feds from shooting your dog and putting you in prison.

 

[Mike_from_Texas]

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I have 3 Texas based suppressor, but the company no longer exists.

Do any of yours look like this?

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[EZ-E]

Do any of yours look like this?

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His were made in Palestine, Tx.
I forget the name of the company.

 

[baboon]

Do any of yours look like this?

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Mine were made by John’s Guns in Palestine,Texas. So you bought that carbon fiber can? What became of that doonbockle?

 

[baboon]

We need to work on getting rid of the NFA completely.

Shut your whore mouth! High and increasing machine guns are part of my investment strategy!

 

[MTA]

Ask the disabled KS vet sitting in a federal pound ‘em in the ašš prison how well their ‘Made in KS’ suppressor law worked out. Fun idea, but ends with the public getting anally raped.

This law should never have passed.

2 Kansas men 'collateral damage' in gun control dispute

WICHITA, Kan. (AP) — The unregistered gun silencers, each stamped "Made in Kansas, were arranged in a display case at a military surplus store in a rural Kansas town. Beside them was a copy of a...

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“President Donald Trump’s administration had asked the court to leave the convictions in place.”

Thanks Don lol

 

[motorcarman]

Sec. 2.053. MARKETING OF FIREARM SUPPRESSOR. A firearm suppressor manufactured and sold in this state must have the words "Made in Texas" clearly stamped on it.


Sec. 2.054. ATTORNEY GENERAL. On written notification to the attorney general by a United States citizen who resides in this state of the citizen's intent to manufacture a firearm suppressor to which Section 2.052 applies, the attorney general shall seek a declaratory judgment from a federal district court in this state that Section 2.052 is consistent with the United States Constitution.

Am I reading this correctly that if I decide to manufacture my own suppressor, I need to contact the TX AJ and get declaratory judgement from a federal district court?

 

[ZX9RCAM]

HB 957 passed

Apologies if this is dupe, i couldn't find another thread about HB957 here or the NFA section. Please move or delete as appropriate. So HB 957 just passed per https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=87R&Bill=HB957 A few websites have described the bill as What this bill...

www.texasguntalk.com

 

[Texasgordo]

Wut

 

[V-Tach]

Don't post your "look at what I made" on social media and you'll be ahead of the game...

 

[OutlawStar]

Don't post your "look at what I made" on social media and you'll be ahead of the game...

That's kinda a given for anything in a grey area. My concern is if a Texas company makes them, sells them online or even locally, and they have to release sales records after the fact. Did you commit a federal felony or would they treat it like states with marijuana/immigration laws that also ignore federal law. Like someone else earlier said, I don't want to get on the crossfire of determining if the laws are kosher, but I'm all for easier accessable suppressors.

 

[James1979]

Sounded promising, but until the ATF is effectively kicked out of Texas, not sure it amounts to much.

Also, I’m all for kicking the ATF out of Texas. Can we get that bill written and voted on?

We have to have a law passed.in Washington, or it just won't due.

 

[Axxe55]

That's kinda a given for anything in a grey area. My concern is if a Texas company makes them, sells them online or even locally, and they have to release sales records after the fact. Did you commit a federal felony or would they treat it like states with marijuana/immigration laws that also ignore federal law. Like someone else earlier said, I don't want to get on the crossfire of determining if the laws are kosher, but I'm all for easier accessable suppressors.

I seriously doubt the ATF is just going to ignore anyone bypassing getting a federal tax stamp and doing the paperwork on a suppressor.

Kansas has a very similar law they passed a few years ago. ATF charged them, federal prosecutors took them to court and got a conviction. State of Kansas to my understanding even sat in and tried to help with the appeals. To no avail. They are now convicted felons.

 

[Axxe55]

We have to have a law passed.in Washington, or it just won't due.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on that to happen.

 

[cycleguy2300]

We have to have a law passed.in Washington, or it just won't due.

We already have a 2nd Amendment supposedly protecting our rights to arms, what we need is some laws GONE like the NFA and the GCA's of '68 and '86...

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[TheDan]

would they treat it like states with marijuana/immigration laws that also ignore federal law

Well you see, there's this obscure legal term called a "double standard"...