Here we go! - Schumer Call for Federal Probe of :Stand Your Ground Laws"

[TrailDust]

Jesse Jackson said this morning that this will help bring back the assault weapons ban.

Never let a good crisis go to waste.

Speaking of which, Jackson and all the other riot fomenters out there are only ever focused on white-on-black crime, as opposed to the slaughter that actually takes place wth black-on-black crime. For example, according to the most recent statistics by the Department of Justice from 2005, the truth about crimes are:


* Black people account for 13% of the U.S. population yet they are 49% of all murder victims

* 93% of all blacks murdered were killed by other blacks, the other 7% were killed by whites, latinos, etc.


Those numbers beg one simple question: Where is the outrage in the black community? They're slaughtering themselves and no one appears to give a rip unless an incident can be pursued for the actual or alleged reason of racism.

 

[London]

A lot like the Joe Horn thing. I'm also having flashbacks to Richard Jewell...

Jena Six!

 

[Glockster69]

Krystal represents New Black Panthers

Michael Berry is a Houston conservative talk show host. I heard this live and had trouble driving while listening. The audio isn't great, maybe due to a gubment phone, but I recommend working through it.


Krystal Represents The New Black Panther Party - YouTube

 

[Domineaux]

Yeah that call was pretty hilarious Glockster...gotta love Michael Berry.

 

[itchin]

Let me get this strait. A hispanic democrat shoots a black democrat, and this is somehow white on black racism, or left vs right? LMFAO!

 

[Kyle]

This proves Zimmerman is guilty...

U.S. News - Police video shows George Zimmerman shortly after Trayvon Martin shooting

 

[Domineaux]

Yeah folks are latching on to that video to "prove" he wasn't injured...lol
Cop takes a good look at the back of Zimmerman's head for "some reason" and it is even mentioned that he received first aid while in the back seat of the police car before being taken to the station. Gotta wonder if he hurt his trigger finger to need the first aid

 

[TrailDust]

Let me get this strait. A hispanic democrat shoots a black democrat, and this is somehow white on black racism, or left vs right? LMFAO!

A three-headed Martian in a Mao jacket could have tangled with that kid and it would still be a white-on-black racist event as characterized by Democrat spin doctors.

 

[itchin]

It is sad the idiots buy into this junk. Remember when they said 0bummer is black, even though he is half, because he walks the streets as a black guy. I would think that same logic applies to Zimmerman, but that doesn't fit their race baiting agenda. IMO Zimmerman looks hispanic. If his mom was white, and his dad hispanic, his last name would be hispanic, and we would have never even heard about this.

 

[smtimelevi]

So here's what I have been able to gather from this whole thing. 9mm fired from a small auto is indeed a good choice for self defense.

 

[Glockster69]

Well yea, there is that too

 

[Domineaux]

So here's what I have been able to gather from this whole thing. 9mm fired from a small auto is indeed a good choice for self defense.

And shot placement is more important than caliber

 

[Mikewood]

This proves Zimmerman is guilty...

U.S. News - Police video shows George Zimmerman shortly after Trayvon Martin shooting

Good video. Thanks for posting.
I further supports the idea Zimmerman was ambushed by martin and was lying on his back being beaten when he drew his weapon that was consealed and fired. I wish they had asked the funeral director about the entry and exit wounds. I bet we fine out they angle upward.

 

[TrailDust]

So here's what I have been able to gather from this whole thing. 9mm fired from a small auto is indeed a good choice for self defense.

In all seriousness, what speaks to me from this incident (as reported so far) is the need to also carry non-lethal methods of self defense if you're also going to carry a firearm in public, concealed or not. A person needs to have the option of using non-lethal means to subdue someone as the situation calls for it. It's a good thing to have as many options available as possible.

 

[smtimelevi]

In all seriousness, what speaks to me from this incident (as reported so far) is the need to also carry non-lethal methods of self defense if you're also going to carry a firearm in public, concealed or not. A person needs to have the option of using non-lethal means to subdue someone as the situation calls for it. It's a good thing to have as many options available as possible.

I'm not trying to start an argument here but I think thats a little unrealistic. Sure in a perfect world nobody has to die but this isnt one and hindsight is always 20/20. I'm not a police officer, I dont wear a duty belt. I'm not going to walk the streets with a tazer, baton, pepper spray, cuffs, and a firearm. Dont forget that non-lethal is a lot more dangerous for you. One shot or extreemly close range for most less than letal options, no thanks. I'll stick to my guns, pun intended.

 

[Martinus_Turonis]

There is the persistent argument by the utopians that in a perfect world there would be no guns.

I say in a perfect would, there would be no need for gun laws since no one would use guns for evil. Having guns or not having guns would be of no consequence.

 

[stdreb27]

In all seriousness, what speaks to me from this incident (as reported so far) is the need to also carry non-lethal methods of self defense if you're also going to carry a firearm in public, concealed or not. A person needs to have the option of using non-lethal means to subdue someone as the situation calls for it. It's a good thing to have as many options available as possible.

Isn't that what fists are for?

 

[ohhrico1969]

Sigh.

 

[TrailDust]

I'm not trying to start an argument here but I think thats a little unrealistic. Sure in a perfect world nobody has to die but this isnt one and hindsight is always 20/20. I'm not a police officer, I dont wear a duty belt. I'm not going to walk the streets with a tazer, baton, pepper spray, cuffs, and a firearm. Dont forget that non-lethal is a lot more dangerous for you. One shot or extreemly close range for most less than letal options, no thanks. I'll stick to my guns, pun intended.

No argument from me, just good discussion. All I'm saying is it's better to have the option than to not have it at all. Sure, if some maniac starts shooting up a fast food joint he needs to be put down ASAP with a firearm, but there are many other incidents a person can find themselves that just don't warrant the use of deadly force or even the escalation of pulling your gun out of its holster. Again, don't get me wrong, I'm not some tree hugging peacenik, I'm just saying it's better to have a range of options.

Isn't that what fists are for?

Personally, I'm good with pepper spray, knife, and Krav Maga on top of a firearm. I also carry a can of bear spray in my truck so that I can put a whole crowd to the ground if necessary.

 

[lalonguecarabine]

Honestly...
I'm so damn sick of hearing all about what happened from everyone who wasn't there!
So much for "due process".