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  • bbbass

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    Just another random democrat idiot

    So you know that I was wrong, but you don't know how to set me right?

    Never mind. I will look it up myself. And when I find out, I won't tell you. Because it really doesn't matter WHO it was... it matters that you were wrong about why it happened. IMO.
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    oldag

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    Trump is still wildly popular despite all the people that want him to stfu. And it takes a big ego to want to be POTUS in the first place. But Trump has always had the accomplishments to back up the ego (unlike O'bummer who was praised highly but had done nothing). Everything he accused the Fake News and D's of doing was proven RIGHT!

    Stick you finger in the air to check the wind direction... if he runs, he will WIN. If he doesn't run, whomever he backs/endorses will win. The sour grapes crowd is all LOSERS!!!

    The POTUS election was stolen. He didn't ruin it... he was winning and it was taken by outright fraud.

    The Georgia election was ruined by R's refusing to add more pork to the stimulus checks. Philosophically good, strategically bad. People in Georgia wanted more handouts. But cheating was rampant there too. We wound up with Corey Bush black radical racist, and Raphael Warnock black radical preacher/racist. That's what happens in D controlled areas. Esp those run by Stacey Abrams black corrupt racist, and interfered by strategically placed drop boxes paid for by billionaires.

    But in reality, it was covid that won the election. D's took advantage of friendly court rulings while R's slept or didn't have a clue what was going to happen.

    IMO, if we continue to allow mail in voting, early voting, late voting, voting w/o ID, same day registration, ballot harvesting, and electronic counting machines... we will continue to have stolen elections.
    Everyone has ego. Trump's was so huge it hurt him, and ultimately our country.

    I don't know why people think this was the first election to have fraud. The Dems have been doing this for at least 60 years. The difference was other Republican presidents performed strongly enough in the election to overcome the fraud. Trump did not.

    Trump cost us the two Senate seats in GA.

    The virus mass hysteria may have well tipped the balance in this case.

    His administration did a lot of good things. But I have a hard time forgiving him for costing us the Senate. And we are paying a huge price (literally and figuratively) for that.
     

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    His administration did a lot of good things. But I have a hard time forgiving him for costing us the Senate. And we are paying a huge price (literally and figuratively) for that.

    Had the R's in the U.S. senate gone for the extra stim checks, we would not have lost. But it's better to blame Trump? He didn't hold the purse strings.

    And how are we paying a big price? Senate is 50/50. And pretty much stalled as long as they hold on the filibuster.

    I don't know why people think this was the first election to have fraud. The Dems have been doing this for at least 60 years. The difference was other Republican presidents performed strongly enough in the election to overcome the fraud. Trump did not.

    Who said it is the first election to have fraud? That would be ignorant and dumb. Thanx for the implication. Trump got more votes than any prez in history. That's a pretty strong performance. He won the electoral in all states that did not have an unprecidented (sp) LEVEL of fraud thanx to the covid judges opening the door for them. Repubs were dumb to let that happen. But also, the system of appealing judges rulings is slooooooowwww, and anything that could have been done was just too little too late.
     

    DoubleDuty

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    Biden will be impeached as soon as he stops carrying the far left water. He is the most disposable POTUS in my lifetime. Wil not be surprised if he is removed one way or another after 1/20/23 due to the 10 year rule. No way Dems let him serve 2 terms unless he is doing exactly everything they say.
    It will be impossible to hide him as a vegetable by then.
     

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    I don't think there is any will in the R party to vote impeachment out of committee. With all the media against them, they would take a bloodbath in the media that might cost them the midterms... even after the midterms I don't think they would.



    The last several POTUS elections have been popularity contests.... what does that tell us about the intellect of the electorate???

    Who thought O'bummer would do a good job? Who knew anything about him or his past? Who knew what he meant by "hope and change"? Who voted for him because he is a black man???
    That we are a country of stupid. Decades of Republican fecklessness and corruption have us in this mess. When you don't counter the opposition they get all the influence.
     

    DoubleDuty

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    Pretty much spot on.

    The impeachment was Democrat circus from the beginning.

    It also set a bad precedence for future impeachments . Congress doesn't like the president or agree with his policy decisions, then impeach him. Doesn't matter if he did anything wrong that was an impeachable offense, just get him out! Don't even need any proof either.
    It is an utter disaster for our Republic. Democrats should have been held accountable and recieved severe punishment.
     

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    It is an utter disaster for our Republic. Democrats should have been held accountable and recieved severe punishment.
    I agree. But the Republicans seem ill-equipped as majority of holding Democrats accountable. They talk a big game, but nothing changes. Democrats sill keep playing the game the way they want to.
     

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    If you voted for Biden because you disliked Trump, then you voted out of emotion. Nothing more. That makes you no better than the low-information voters, that voted for Biden or any other liberal socialist Democrats, because they were making promises that they have no plans on keeping. Oh they will throw you just enough of a bone to make sure you vote for them again, when they need your vote.

    I don't vote for someone to fill a job because I like them. I want to vote for the person that I think is best suited to fill that job and what they say they plan on doing once they get that job.

    I voted for Trump because of what he promised he would do as president. He wasn't exactly an unknown going into the running either. He was well publicized as a business owner and was successful. I already knew what a witch Hillary Clinton was and knew how she felt on some things, and how corrupt she is. Wasn't any way in hell I'd ever vote for her. So I took a chance on Trump. He didn't disappoint me, or make me ever regret voting for him. I voted again for Trump in 2020, because of the job he had already done gave me that confidence.

    If you are voting for a candidate out of emotion, than you are no better than the low-information voters on the other side of the aisle. Maybe even worse IMO.
     

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    Had the R's in the U.S. senate gone for the extra stim checks, we would not have lost. But it's better to blame Trump? He didn't hold the purse strings.

    And how are we paying a big price? Senate is 50/50. And pretty much stalled as long as they hold on the filibuster.



    Who said it is the first election to have fraud? That would be ignorant and dumb. Thanx for the implication. Trump got more votes than any prez in history. That's a pretty strong performance. He won the electoral in all states that did not have an unprecidented (sp) LEVEL of fraud thanx to the covid judges opening the door for them. Repubs were dumb to let that happen. But also, the system of appealing judges rulings is slooooooowwww, and anything that could have been done was just too little too late.
    The stimulus check issue is pure speculation and a red herring in my opinion. Dems turned out to vote against Trump.

    Paying a big price? Folks need to start keeping up with what legislation is being passed. All of the budget bills pass because Harris breaks the 50-50 tie. Only 51 votes required for "reconciliation" budget bills. We are in the process of getting another trillion dollar bill crammed down our throats. Then there are the confirmations.

    I figured most folks must think this was the first election with fraud because they keep blaming that for Trump's loss, as though no other Republican had to overcome fraud before.
     

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    I don't think anyone ever called pelosi a fox before. Get your eyes checked.
    You are the one jumping on the band wagon calling Nasty a fox. I was using the generic sense of the term. If you can't understand a statement, answer, or reply you should raise you hand and ask permission to have someone explain it to you. If any thing needs checking it is your mental state.
     

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    You are the one jumping on the band wagon calling Nasty a fox. I was using the generic sense of the term. If you can't understand a statement, answer, or reply you should raise you hand and ask permission to have someone explain it to you. If any thing needs checking it is your mental state.
    Lighten up dude. You don't need to correct me more than once unless you self-identify as a wife. Even then you ain't my wife. Go take a midol or make a sammich or something.
     

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    The stimulus check issue is pure speculation and a red herring in my opinion. Dems turned out to vote against Trump.


    Not a red herring.... it's my OPINION, same as yours... is your opinion of the loss a red herring?

    Show me the turnout numbers. I wouldn't think more Dems turned out than usual in Georgia if it wasn't for the placement of drop boxes in D areas paid for by a billionaire, and vote harvesting by the machine that Abrams put together. But I do think I remember a report saying there was low Repub turnout. However, I've slept since then.


    Paying a big price? Folks need to start keeping up with what legislation is being passed. All of the budget bills pass because Harris breaks the 50-50 tie. Only 51 votes required for "reconciliation" budget bills. We are in the process of getting another trillion dollar bill crammed down our throats. Then there are the confirmations.

    Congress hasn't passed a "budget" in many years. If you are talking about spending bills, the problem is that Repubs vote for them too.... Harris hasn't had to be the tie breaker in any spending bill that I know of... So the Georgia Senate election really has not had an effect.


    I figured most folks must think this was the first election with fraud because they keep blaming that for Trump's loss, as though no other Republican had to overcome fraud before.

    Yup, I heard you the first time. And I replied that no other Republican has had that level of fraud, targeted in specific electoral areas (Dems had a plan, they took note of Trumps 2016 electoral win, Repubs were clueless/powerless), under covid rules. I will keep saying that, and you will keep implying that I am dumb. We can circle each other as long as you want. But hang on to that TDS sir, you're going to need it come 2024.
     

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    So I looked up the Georgia 2020 voter turnout, and it seems that you were right about the unprecedented turnout. There were close to 2 million new voters that year of the 7M+ total voter count.

    Demographically, it looked like this:

    Democrat96 Biden4N/A34%
    Republican694 TrumpN/A38%
    Independent5344328 %

    By percent, it would appear that Repubs had a greater turnout than Dems, Independents gave Biden the victory. And the info above represents Biden's slight 11K vote win. A victory by 000000000.23% of the vote. Hmmmmm, remember those suitcases being pulled out after the count watchers were sent home. At any rate, it would appear that at least as far as the Georgia race goes, you were right, the race should not have been that close, and counties that had always gone Repub voted Dem. Maybe changing demographics. But stats would appear that whites still outnumbered other races in the vote. So not a racial demographic but perhaps just an increase in Dems and Independents that voted. IDK. I was unable to find a comparison to past POTUS races in Georgia.

    We'll see in 2024 if Trump is not running.... if Georgia flips back to Repub, that would be telling. If a Dem wins Georgia again, I would have to say that Georgia has flipped Blue. Which is what I think happened in 2020, along with unprecedented levels of voter fraud.

    But I thought we were talking about the Senate vote... it would be speculative to assume that a vote for Biden means a vote for Dem Senate candidates too.

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    As far as Harris being a tie breaker on budget bills (spending), she has cast 8 tie breaker votes, of which 3 were spending related, one of those a procedural vote, so you were right 2 out of 8 times:

    Vice President Kamala Harris (D) has cast eight tie-breaking votes in the Senate:


    • July 21, 2021: The Senate voted 50-50 to confirm Jennifer Abruzzo as general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board. Harris broke the tie to confirm Abruzzo.[2]
    • July 20, 2021: The Senate voted 50-50 to invoke cloture on the nomination of Jennifer Abruzzo for general counsel of the National Labor Relations Board. Harris broke the tie to support the motion.[3]
    • June 22, 2021: The Senate voted 50-50 to confirm Kiran Ahuja as director of the Office of Personnel Management. Harris broke the tie to confirm Ahuja.[4]
    • June 22, 2021: The Senate voted 50-50 to invoke cloture on the nomination of Kiran Ahuja for director of the Office of Personnel Management. Harris broke the tie to support the motion.[4]
    • April 21, 2021: The Senate voted 50-50 on a motion to discharge the nomination of Colin Kahl for under secretary of defense for policy. Harris broke the tie to support the motion.[5]
    • March 4, 2021: The Senate voted 50-50 on a motion to proceed with debate on the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021. Harris broke the tie to affirm the motion.[6]
    • February 5, 2021: The Senate voted 50-50 to adopt a budget resolution relating to COVID-19 economic relief. Harris broke the tie to adopt the resolution.[7]
    • February 5, 2021: The Senate voted 50-50 to adopt an amendment proposed by Sen. Chuck Schumer on the budget resolution. Harris broke the tie to adopt the amendment.[8]

    Yeah, I think we're way off topic. Sorry guys and gals.

     
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