Lacquer Coated Ammo...

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  1. ConnRadd

    ConnRadd Active Member

    According to DPMS Ammo Warning:

    "The problem with this ammunition is that the lacquer coating on the case. As the barrel heats up, the lacquer turns to a soft, varnish substance and upon cool down, becomes very solid and difficult to remove. This effectively creates an undersized chamber and creates understandable problems."


    http://www.dpmsinc.com/support/warning.aspx



    Has anyone had issues with the lacquer coated ammo?
     


  2. android

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    I shot lacquer coated steel Monarch 9mm for a while when brass was scarce and never had a problem. I only have two 10 rounds mags though, so I'd have to take a break to reload every 20 rounds.
     
  3. Mate

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    I havent had a problem, but a shooter at a class I went to did. He had a stuck case, and the lacquer hardened around it as it cooled. It took quite a few good whacks with a mallet and a cleaning rod to get it out.

    He was shooting wolf in a .223 chamber.
    I was shooting Hornady steel in a 5.56 chamber.
     
  4. D-Day

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    I was shooting Monarch .223 through my AR and it wouldn't feed worth a damn. It was the first time I shot it and only got about 10 rounds out of it. I took it apart after itcooled down and there was a solid coating of the lacquer in the chamber. I shhot it through my Bushmaster with no problem.
     
  5. Man With A Gun...

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    The lacquer is to keep the steel cases from rusting while in storage. The best trick is to let them soak in lacquer thinner prior to shooting. Let them dry well.
     
  6. 50calRay

    50calRay Active Member

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    In the past importers like Wolf used excessive amounts of sealer around the primers and projectiles. This stuff would melt off into the chamber and cause issues. I want to say they also changed up the lacquer method to help reduce issues as well.

    Anyhow, I've probably shot about 5,000rds of steel cased ammo and only had one stuck casing.
     
  7. kville79

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    The only time I've had problems with the stuff is after shooting for awhile with my Mauser. Romanian 80's stuff sticks in the chamber.... that's how I broke my extractor.
     
  8. TdDude

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    The Wolf version of steel cased ammo won't feed through my mags. They always seem to get stuck in the mags. As such, it's a great way for me to practice malfunction drills. :smoker:

    The Brown Bear stuff feeds flawlessly and I've shot tens of thousands of rounds through my Berettas without any issues,

    EXCEPT FOR

    I've had two cases get stuck that required quite a bit of pounding with a rod to get them out. But only two and they caused no issues.

    I don't use the Brown Bear anymore because I don't shoot that much. If I ever go to shooting 2k rounds a month, I'll probably go back to it just for the economy.
     
  9. Lmccrock

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    Just remember that DPMS is talking about gas operated AR15's whose chambers are harder to clean than your average handgun, or even some rifles. AR15 timing is tricky and sticky steel cases make extraction a little harder. That said, many AR15 owners shoot steel cases without trouble. Also, Wolf's 223 now has a polymer finish, not lacquer. But DPMS also warns against any steel case, whether lacquer or polymer or zinc coated.

    Lee
     
  10. brickboy240

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    Thats why I love the AK...it was made for shooting steel cased junky ammo. Never a problem with this in the AK or SKSs. The red flaky stuff gets everywhere, but cleaning later on gets it all out.

    In 223? Well, I ran Wolf through my Mini-14 many times and never had a jam, either.

    This is a big concearn of mine in getting an AR...its ammo pickiness. Since 223 is not as cheap as it used to be...it would be nice to be able to run the cheapo stuff and not worry.

    - brickboy240
     

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