Military to be used here for DHS

[Major Woody]

Just got info off the Army News, benefits, careers, entertainment, photos, promotions - Army Times HOME web site and another web site that the 3rd Infantry, 1st Brigade Combat team will be used for DHS missions in America for possible crowd control and humanitarian purposes starting Oct 1st. They will be deploying never used before nonlethal weapon package. This is going against Sec 1385 of Posse Comitatus, which was repealed by John Warner with HR 4986 in The National Defense Authorization Act for 2008 which reverts it to the Insurrection Act of 1807. any JAG people out there. I see using National Guard for emergencies, but The Federal Military? Are they expecting protest against the bailout and are our Guard troops streached that thin?

 

[DirtyD]

This is disturbing. DHS missions, crowd control, etc. These are all part of the reason that each State maintains its own National Guard. The State of Texas has more than enough MP units to handle just about anything, not to mention infantry and even an SF unit. And no, our Guard units are not stretched that thin, although for the first time since WWII we are taking on a very large part of wwhat is supposed to be the active Army's position overseas. I think the only reason that this particular unit is going to take on such a role is the introduction of several "new" non-lethal sytems (infra-red, microwave, laser and sonic devices)

 

[chevydeerhunter]

Maybe they're expecting McCain to win the election and the subsequent rioting in urban areas?

Fatimah Ali of the Philidelphia Daily News said on Sep. 2, "If McCain wins, look for a full-fledged race and class war, fueled by a deflated and depressed country, soaring crime, homelessness - and hopelessness!"
I don't know if she meant this statement as a prediction or a threat, but either way she said it.

Fatimah Ali: We need Obama, not 4 more years of George Bush | Philadelphia Daily News | 09/02/2008

 

[SIG_Fiend]

People think it won't happen, our own military could never be used against us right? Unfortunately it has already happened, and it is already currently happening in places around the country. It is an escalation, and it's only a matter of time before things turn from non-lethal force into deadly force. All of us that value our rights truly should be afraid. I hate to sound like the tinfoil hat crowd, however the unfortunate reality is it's plainly obvious where this country is going. I can honestly say that within the next century or less, the corrupt politicians steering all of this unconstitutional mess are going to force us into another civil war or revolution. Lets hope it doesn't come to that and that things can be solved bureaucratically. Slowly but surely though, I'm still preparing for the worst case.

 

[Hoji]

People think it won't happen, our own military could never be used against us right? Unfortunately it has already happened, and it is already currently happening in places around the country. It is an escalation, and it's only a matter of time before things turn from non-lethal force into deadly force. All of us that value our rights truly should be afraid. I hate to sound like the tinfoil hat crowd, however the unfortunate reality is it's plainly obvious where this country is going. I can honestly say that within the next century or less, the corrupt politicians steering all of this unconstitutional mess are going to force us into another civil war or revolution. Lets hope it doesn't come to that and that things can be solved bureaucratically. Slowly but surely though, I'm still preparing for the worst case.

Come on everybody.... say it.... Alex Jones was right.... there , that wasn't so hard was it?

 

[kville79]

I'm pretty sure that this would be vaguely unconstitutional. States have the right to use the National Guard as they see fit, because they are "state controlled militia". Federal military forces used as a policing force in the united states is something I though could only happen when martial law is declared.

This whole proposal reeks if illegality.

 

[Major Woody]

There are fixing to be protests in 41 states. The president has made arrangements that will allow Canada's military to intervene in case of a insurrection or emergency. U.N. peacekeepers will be used. Out the door is our military refusing illegal orders, they will pass out food and water, probably at detention camps. This is coming from the U.N. Go pull up their site and read Agenda 21 and look for other parts of their constitution. One section suggests a 80% population reduction. We should of got out of that years ago. They have a revolver with a twisted barrel in front of the U.N. building.
Those who beat their swords into plows will plow for those who don't. Thomas Jefferson

 

[TSU45]

They are calling it the Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF).

Sounds innocent enough.

 

[Hoji]

They are calling it the Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF).

Sounds innocent enough.

Pronounced see-smurf

 

[longtooth]

People think it won't happen, our own military could never be used against us right? Unfortunately it has already happened, and it is already currently happening in places around the country. It is an escalation, and it's only a matter of time before things turn from non-lethal force into deadly force. All of us that value our rights truly should be afraid. I hate to sound like the tinfoil hat crowd, however the unfortunate reality is it's plainly obvious where this country is going. I can honestly say that within the next century or less, the corrupt politicians steering all of this unconstitutional mess are going to force us into another civil war or revolution. Lets hope it doesn't come to that and that things can be solved bureaucratically. Slowly but surely though, I'm still preparing for the worst case.

My son just retired from the Air Force. I told him at least 10 yrs age that there would come a day when Military would have to decide to enforce unconstitutional & tyrannical oppression or get court marshaled.
That day is upon us.