New Covid Vaccine Requirements
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Here’s the thing with antibodies:
You have them in measurable amounts for a period of time post-infection.
But you body doesn’t continually circulate antibodies, the metabolic price would be too high.
So we have memory cells that, once the bad stuff is identified, they tell your immune system to start antibody production.
As an adult, assuming you had it as a child, you don’t have chicken-pox antibodies floating around 24/7. They’re produced in response to stimuli, and slowly retreat when the stimuli is gone.
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You have them in measurable amounts for a period of time post-infection.
But you body doesn’t continually circulate antibodies, the metabolic price would be too high.
So we have memory cells that, once the bad stuff is identified, they tell your immune system to start antibody production.
As an adult, assuming you had it as a child, you don’t have chicken-pox antibodies floating around 24/7. They’re produced in response to stimuli, and slowly retreat when the stimuli is gone.
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DubiousDan
Trump 2024
Sorry, that's not always true. With some diseases the antibodies remain for decades.
How Long Do I Retain Immunity? (Published 2018)
Antibody half-life varies tremendously, from about 11 years for tetanus to over 200 years for measles and mumps.
Pretty sure I had it in Sept '20. My lungs got really bad, hurt to breathe bad, and are still screwed up. Everyone else in the house just had a sore throat, cough and fever for about 48 hours. I did not get tested. Not vaxxed. Still not. Ain't gonna be.
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Vaxed daughter had it twice.
Vaxed other daughter probably has it now. Although she tested negative but the doc says false positive and negative tests are extremely common. Some say the tests can be as much as only 40% accurate.
Vaxed other daughter probably has it now. Although she tested negative but the doc says false positive and negative tests are extremely common. Some say the tests can be as much as only 40% accurate.
GasGuzzler
Active Member
No reason to get tested in my household.
According to my doc, the covid antibodies test is only valid for more recent infections. No good six months later.Sorry, that's not always true. With some diseases the antibodies remain for decades.
How Long Do I Retain Immunity? (Published 2018)
Antibody half-life varies tremendously, from about 11 years for tetanus to over 200 years for measles and mumps.www.nytimes.com
I wonder if some of us unvaccinated who have never had symptoms maybe caught in the first round, were asymptomatic (so never tested), and have stronger immunity than provided by the inoculations thus not getting the variants (or maybe asymptomatic if we did).
BeatTheTunaUp
Fux with the best, Die like the rest
Probably.
I've joked for years about eating something off the ground or eating with dirty hands will just turn my immune system into a body builder from all the small work outs that if the plague comes, I'll be fine. Guess that joke is playing out.
3 years ago I did get a mystery sickness that felt like it damn near killed me. I lost 30lbs and was pissing blood when my wife finally drug me to the ER. Did culture samples and all came back negative. Maybe I was patient zero. Still have no idea what it was.
I got sick in November of 2019 (Pre pandemic). I went to the doctor, but never really asked what it was, I figured influenza. The doctor gave me a shot and a prescription (antibiotics), but it still took about 2 weeks to start feeling better.
At the beginning of 2020, when I first heard of COVID-19, all the symptoms sounded exactly like what I had a few months earlier. I don't know for sure, but I wasn't coming down with CV-19 even though many around me had.
Had there had been more openness when it came to questions about the vaccines, I probably would have gotten it in early 2021. The whole "nothing but a new vaccine will work" along with "If you question the vaccine, you're an antivaxxer conspiracy theorist" didn't and still doesn't instill confidence in me. And Fauci? I can't think of a worse salesman. I'm just surprised that so many blindly accept a narrative coming from people they used to say they didn't trust.
If they had simply said this vaccine is available, and these are the benefits, it’s likely that at some point I would have gotten the shot. The moment they started giving away cash, lotto tickets, booze, weed, movie tickets and burgers to entice people to get it, the red flags went up. I knew this was a bad thing. They over did it in their push to get as many vaxxed as possible in a short period of time before the side effects start cropping up. After reading all the reports of athletes (soccer mostly) collapsing on the field, I’m sure there are some that regret getting the vaccine.
Texasgordo
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I'm unvaccinated and haven't had the beer flu. In 2020 in had a bronchial infection and last year I had walking pneumonia. I've been very lucky too because a majority of family and friends have had it.
***Edit......I'm also in the high risk group. Pre-diabetes, high blood pressure and a fat bastard.
You're pretty lucky.
My post was a response to one comment in the post above it.
In no means am I pro-vax.
Texasgordo
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I really did consider getting the jab at first but decided not to after they started with the variants and booster bullshit.
Sorry, that's not always true. With some diseases the antibodies remain for decades.
How Long Do I Retain Immunity? (Published 2018)
Antibody half-life varies tremendously, from about 11 years for tetanus to over 200 years for measles and mumps.
It’s generally true.
There are exceptions as you note
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They have us over a barrel.
I used to visit my brother and his family in Maine (Canadian border) regularly.
I cancelled flight reservations in late April of 2000. I haven't been back. Too much bullshit with restrictions and quarantines.
I used to visit my brother and his family in Maine (Canadian border) regularly.
I cancelled flight reservations in late April of 2000. I haven't been back. Too much bullshit with restrictions and quarantines.
DubiousDan
Trump 2024
Which viruses of any consequence have antibodies that fade? Covid of course and I know some might say the Influenza A virus but I believe the antibodies (Flu A) remain but the virus mutates to a point that the antibodies no longer are effective.It’s generally true.
There are exceptions as you note
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