Open Carry BBQ in Elgin, Tx

[DoubleActionCHL]

In case you didn't know, an INVITATION to be on the propery with the EXPRESS PURPOSE of having BBQ and open carry of a handgun GIVES EXPRESS CONSENT for the guest to do so. No law broken.

As much as I hate to agree with Renegade...

He's right. You can't simply "give consent" for someone to open carry on your private property. You were actually correct when you said open carry might be acceptable as a result of a lease agreement. Any arrangement that puts the individual "in control of" the property, would allow then to open carry. Range masters and other range employees may open carry because it can be argued that this is required by and integral to their job function.

If you're going to have people open carrying on your property, you might want to have them sign a release.

Here's a silly idea, but could probably be argued successfully. Your release will contain language stating you're "hiring" the undersigned as a "property management agent" for the day and will receive payment in the form of food. The property management agent, we could argue, is in control of the property and can, therefore, open carry.

Tada!

 

[Bithabus]

Anyone can legally open carry at the range.

I'd simply put a few targets around your BBQ in areas with safe backstops. Maybe poke a few holes in them.

 

[texas_teacher]

Anyone can legally open carry at the range.

I'd simply put a few targets around your BBQ in areas with safe backstops. Maybe poke a few holes in them.

No need.... people shoot at briskets like WANTED...

 

[MR Redneck]

Cant have a BBQ without BBQ holsters! Of cource you gotta have somethin to put in those holsters too!
The laws suck, and we all know that.
The mans property is private and i'll conduct myself as the property owner wishes.
LE has better things to do than worrying about somebodies BBQ.

 

[matefrio]

Depending on the Saturday, I'll do my best to make it up there to support open carry.

 

[texas_teacher]

LE has better things to do than worrying about somebodies BBQ.

Truer words have never been spoken...

 

[MR Redneck]

Wait a minute! I let people open carry all the time on my property! I never heard of this being against the law before. Well, I really never thought to ask either because I just dont care. Aint nobody going to come on my property without a warrant anyhow. Unless someone is in direct and immediate danger, I dont see how the law can come on private property and do anything!

 

[Bithabus]

Wait a minute! I let people open carry all the time on my property! I never heard of this being against the law before. Well, I really never thought to ask either because I just dont care. Aint nobody going to come on my property without a warrant anyhow. Unless someone is in direct and immediate danger, I dont see how the law can come on private property and do anything!

Maybe you can start a new thread about this so we don't pollute this thread about a nice man planning a BBQ.
In short, no you can't "consent" to people openly carrying handguns on your property, and yes LE can come on your property without a warrant.

 

[jsimmons]

It's a firearm event, and he'll have a table for cleaning and field demonstrations. If it's a firearm event, people can open carry.

We did it last year, and everything was fine. Debra Medina showed up with a borrowed pistol, and someone even brought a belt-fed machine gun.

 

[texas_teacher]

Range masters and other range employees may open carry because it can be argued that this is required by and integral to their job function.

Does the state say that it is integral to their job function? If so then they are really stepping into the realm of a commissioned security guard if that is the case? (Or so it seems)

 

[MR Redneck]

Just post whether you plan make it or not. I don't have an exact date, but it will be on a Saturday. Maybe 3-4 weeks. How about Saturday before Thanksgiving? I need a head count.

Hey rodbender, pm me with all the details and how many briskits I need to bring. You set a date and I will be there buddy.
Im tired of the killjoys and wont be posting in this thread anymore.
You have my word, I'll be glad to attend and will bring tasty beef.

 

[Bithabus]

Does the state say that it is integral to their job function? If so then they are really stepping into the realm of a commissioned security guard if that is the case? (Or so it seems)

No, the statement you quoted is incorrect. Anyone may open carry at the range.

 

[texas_teacher]

No, the statement you quoted is incorrect. Anyone may open carry at the range.

I never argued that they couldn't... Someone else argued the point that R.O.'s open carry because it is integral to their job function.

 

[Bithabus]

I never argued that they couldn't... Someone else argued the point that R.O.'s open carry because it is integral to their job function.

I know, I'm saying the person who said that is mistaken.

 

[rodbender]

With al this back and forth about "Is it legal or not" I want to know one thing...Who's coming to the BBQ. That's what this thread was started for. If you are afraid of being arrested, then don't open carry while here. Come get some BBQ.

 

[MR Redneck]

Im going and im bringing guns and briskits!
I aint skerd, I've been thrown in jail before!

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

count me in feed me and i will be the look out

 

[rodbender]

Anybody coming to the OC BBQ needs to PM me with how many people you are bringing, including children. Yes, children are always welcome here. I will reply with my address. Use mapquest not googlemaps. Googlemaps is incorrect.

Bring some chairs for yourself. Be sure you take them when you go. I sell any left on ebay if you want them back.

 

[txinvestigator]

That's exactly why you see a lot of Range Officers carrying open at ranges... Their employer gives them the right to open carry.

No, they are carrying because they are on "premises under their control".

BBQ sounds like fun. Someone have a plate for me.

 

[MR Redneck]

Anybody coming to the OC BBQ needs to PM me with how many people you are bringing, including children. Yes, children are always welcome here. I will reply with my address. Use mapquest not googlemaps. Googlemaps is incorrect.

Bring some chairs for yourself. Be sure you take them when you go. I sell any left on ebay if you want them back.

How bout my dog? She can tend to the kids..