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    Police said they found the suspect bleeding from a gunshot wound and took him in stable condition to University Medical Center of El Paso, the paper said.​
    Gomez added to the station that no charges are pending at the moment, and the only individual in custody is the suspect.

    God bless police departments that understand the 2nd amendment and the right to protect one's own life.
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    LeadChucker

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    It's a shitty thing when they can't even get the low hainging fruit, even if the DAs won't prosecute this stuff the police should recover the property.

    With so many jurisdictions passing "get out of jail free" regulations, a few major chain stores have adopted new policies. They have discovered the majority of shoplifters are repeat offenders. They have instructed their staff not to interfere, but rather flag the time on the in-store video surveillance system. The thieving individuals are identified and catalogued. Rather than report individual incidents, the stores wait until the total value of stolen merchandise surpasses the "catch and release" minimum, (in Texas theft over $2,500 is a felony). Once the stores have enough evidence to charge the individual with a felony, the evidence is presented to law enforcement.

    I understand this approach isn't perfect, but I applaud companies that are at least trying to bring these dirt bags to justice rather than just writing it off and passing the cost on to the rest of us. The majority of crime is committed by a subset of repeat offenders. If we can get the worst of these thieving scumbags out of circulation, we can potentially see a huge overall drop in crime.
     
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    With so many jurisdictions passing "get out of jail free" regulations, a few major chain stores have adopted new policies. They have discovered the majority of shoplifters are repeat offenders. They have instructed their staff not to interfere, but rather flag the time on the in-store video surveillance system. The thieving individuals are identified and catalogued. Rather than report individual incidents, the stores wait until the total value of stolen merchandise surpasses the "catch and release" minimum, (in Texas theft over $2,500 is a felony). Once the stores have enough evidence to charge the individual with a felony, the evidence is presented to law enforcement.

    I understand this approach isn't perfect, but I applaud companies that are at least trying to bring these dirt bags to justice rather than just writing it off and passing the cost on to the rest of us. The majority of crime is committed by a subset of repeat offenders. If we can get the worst of these thieving scumbags out of circulation, we can potentially see a huge overall drop in crime.
    Which stores and where, because I've never heard of charges based on the aggregate value over multiple unique incidents. It would be like a cop radar in you 5mph over the limit three times over three days but writes one ticket for 15mph over...

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    candcallen

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    Which stores and where, because I've never heard of charges based on the aggregate value over multiple unique incidents. It would be like a cop radar in you 5mph over the limit three times over three days but writes one ticket for 15mph over...

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    I think he is misunderstanding the prosecution of organized retail theft rings.

    There is no way to know or prove the value of the stolen items unless an apprehension is made.
     

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    It might be possible to get a conviction on organized crime laws. But not probable. Even though they have video of them doing things that would indicate theft, unless the actually catch them at the door going out the door with the merchandise, they have no proof of theft. When I was at Walmart, unless LP or Mgmt saw them do it, even with video, they would not make a stop. If they lost sight of them, no stop. They could have put the stuff down somewhere. With video only, especially if the full body is not shown 100%of the time, a defense attorney would argue that they decided not to steal anything and left it somewhere. A conviction would be a hard sell if you don't put it on them going out the door.
    And if you do and let them go you are not likely to get to use it to show a criminal pattern or conspiracy.
    Trying to get that kind of conviction would be a sign of severe desperation. Desperation born of a lack of willingness to take adequate measures to stop the theft.

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    In the 90s we had a group of organized thieves that worked their way around AZ cities.

    One person would come in and take a large item like a big car seat or air compressor and remove the item from the box.

    Another would hide the box in the middle of a clothing rack. Yet more people would fill the box with expensive Levi's and other clothes.

    Another person would take it out of the rack reseal the box and put it back and finally Another would come in and buy the item. A 50 or 100 dollar item could have a thousand dollars worth of stuff in it.

    They way they did it not one person was seen completing all the steps needed for a store apprehension.

    While technically and legally once you open and conceal something you could be arrested on the spot for theft all stores requierd multiple steps to be observed and constant surveillance maintained and waiting till they exited without paying befor stopping them.

    It took weeks of piecing this whole thing together and the detectives did the actual arresting eventually.

    Organized retail theft today is much less sophisticated in that they just take advantage of lax prosecution and no actual LP that can stop people any more in many places. The just go in fill bags and walk out knowing nothing will happen then move on to the next store. The only organized part is picking tge routes to all the stores they will hit that day and who to sell or trade the stuff to.

    Many places don't even try to catch shop lifters and the ones that do have such limitations placed on them it's useless.

    Used too, if we lost sight and couldn't actually stop them we would burn them and make them dump the merch by showing handcuffs or handing them the package of the item they concealed or announcing their description over the PA in a security please respond announcement. You can't do that in most places anymore.

    The best many stores are allowed to do is follow them around or keep asking if they need help or when they find a cart or bag they are filling take it if they go get more merchandise. They can't even stand in their way at doors.
     

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    Travis County DA would let him walk without bail.
    Then plea bargain the drug & gun charges down to a misdemeanor 3rd.
    Sentence would be a year or two probation.
     

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    A woman in Wisconsin accused of decapitating her lover during a drug-laden sex romp suddenly attacked her lawyer in court after a witness failed to show up in her defense.
     

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    A woman in Wisconsin accused of decapitating her lover during a drug-laden sex romp suddenly attacked her lawyer in court after a witness failed to show up in her defense.
    Cut his head off then gave oral sex then cut his penis off then removed organs from his body.

    Christ Almighty.
     

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    I know a lady who has her CC stolen once, and attempted to steal again. She saw them from her apartment and went running after them. While they didn't get it the second time, they did damage it enough that her car had to be repaired.
     
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