Pistol only SHTF loadout. What would you bring?

[jsimmons]

Since this is a pistol-only SHTF question...

I have a XD-40 and a 1911, but I would have to go with the 1911, seven magazines, and a box of 50 extra rounds. Any more than that is an unnecessary burden.

I can fill a 1911 magazine without a loading device, where the XD magazines require the loading device after about the 8th round. It's easier to carry/reload seven 7-round 1911 mags than four 12-round .40 mags, especially when you consider the reloading part of it.

On the other hand, I would always grab on of my ARs as well, and I have an ammo can full of loaded magazines for them, so I'd grab that too.

If I don't have transportation, I'll grab a standard combat patrol loadout (seven 30-round mags), and leave the rest behind.

 

[TheDan]

Ya'll are thinking too small. A Draco or PLR16 will fit under a coat or in a briefcase/messenger bag. Hell if it's a true SHTF situation might as well put an underfolder stock on it.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Lots of excellent information and well thought out lists. One question however, if there is a requirement to be stealthy or to not bring attention I would include a silent method of dispatching either foe or food. Now without telling what I have, what would you add to your list?

I can't tell you either......

 

[TexasRedneck]

It'd hafta be 1911's w/spare mags an' an ammo can w/ammo (assuming mobile w/vehicle). Pair of .380's, again w/spare ammo. Foldin' knife, min. 100' parachute cord, iodine crystals (to purify water). Coupla silk items (acts as water filter w/o being obvious). 1911's/380's give me carry options depending on situation encountered....

 

[ZX9RCAM]

My only comment, although I prefer .40 or .45....one sure can carry ALOT more 9mm as far as weight issues are concerned.....

 

[TexasRedneck]

My only comment, although I prefer .40 or .45....one sure can carry ALOT more 9mm as far as weight issues are concerned.....

True - thing is, 9mm is a (relatively) light round that uses velocity to help it - that makes it easier to be deflected. 230 grains is kinda hard to "shrug off".

 

[jsimmons]

True - thing is, 9mm is a (relatively) light round that uses velocity to help it - that makes it easier to be deflected. 230 grains is kinda hard to "shrug off".

You also need a lot more of it to do the job...

 

[KAK]

I think either one would be fine for the bag. I could even throw some
AR mags in there.

 

[KAK]

Anyone know where you can get some flashbangs?

 

[APatriot]

Simply my Sig P239 and about 130 rounds of 40. With Night Sights and SRT, "one shot, one kill". I mean, what else is there in regard to a handgun other than a Sig Sauer? Don't answer with "Glock" or "SW" and similar because they are simply the "poor man's" handgun. Now HK, they are close to the Sig Family I will admit.

Of course my Sig is an excellent "side arm", but I would revert to "full survival" mode if SHTF. Those who have been where I have been need not ask for clarification.

 

[KAK]

Simply my Sig P239 and about 130 rounds of 40. With Night Sights and SRT, "one shot, one kill". I mean, what else is there in regard to a handgun other than a Sig Sauer? Don't answer with "Glock" or "SW" and similar because they are simply the "poor man's" handgun. Now HK, they are close to the Sig Family I will admit.

Of course my Sig is an excellent "side arm", but I would revert to "full survival" mode if SHTF. Those who have been where I have been need not ask for clarification.

Agreed... I like sigs better yet the glocks have their place. If I were in a dirty ass envrio and had little resources for firearm upkeep I would take my glock over sig. I hate HK mag releases, IMO it ruins the whole gun.

 

[Wolfwood]

a berky water bottle, magazines, pistol on belt, (9mm+p+), back pocket .38 spcl (+p+)backup revolver.


that should cover it.

maybe some destructables or potent chemical agents in the bag. along with some emergency rations magnesium bar, a few lights (flash lights and chem lights) and a decent med kit. depending where im going.

into town? aint goin without a rifle. i hardly do that as it is.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Simply my Sig P239 and about 130 rounds of 40. With Night Sights and SRT, "one shot, one kill". I mean, what else is there in regard to a handgun other than a Sig Sauer? Don't answer with "Glock" or "SW" and similar because they are simply the "poor man's" handgun. Now HK, they are close to the Sig Family I will admit.

Of course my Sig is an excellent "side arm", but I would revert to "full survival" mode if SHTF. Those who have been where I have been need not ask for clarification.

Aer you implying only poor men buy Glock's & S&W's........

 

[TexasRedneck]

Don't answer with "Glock" or "SW" and similar because they are simply the "poor man's" handgun. Now HK, they are close to the Sig Family I will admit.

Wow....just wow. View attachment 5860

 

[fnmedallion]

14-.45's

 

[SIG_Fiend]

The nice thing about a Glock is, you can have a dozen or more of those things hidden all over the house, stashed inside the interior panels of your vehicles, buried in containers in the backyard, hidden in the bilge of your darn boat, etc and you can pretty much guarantee they won't rust, and if you need it they will work after collecting dust there for years. There are a few guns that come close to that rugged, but there aren't any I'd trust quite as much to do that with.

As far as "the argument" goes, why not bypass it entirely? Buy a 9mm handgun, and a good old .45acp 1911 and have the best of both worlds. If the situation permits deciding before hand, just choose whichever the situation warrants.

Flashbangs are not legal for civilians to possess or purchase. As far as I understand it, they are considered to be an explosive. They are actually more dangerous than people might realize, and can cause serious injury (close contact detonation), or possibly death if it goes off in someone's face I'd guess. There are actually flashbang simulators you can legally buy. All the simulators are is a canister that uses compressed air to make a 110+ decibel BANG and no flash, so they are just a noise diversion device.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

The nice thing about a Glock is, you can have a dozen or more of those things hidden all over the house, stashed inside the interior panels of your vehicles, buried in containers in the backyard, hidden in the bilge of your darn boat, etc and you can pretty much guarantee they won't rust, and if you need it they will work after collecting dust there for years. There are a few guns that come close to that rugged, but there aren't any I'd trust quite as much to do that with.

As far as "the argument" goes, why not bypass it entirely? Buy a 9mm handgun, and a good old .45acp 1911 and have the best of both worlds. If the situation permits deciding before hand, just choose whichever the situation warrants.

Flashbangs are not legal for civilians to possess or purchase. As far as I understand it, they are considered to be an explosive. They are actually more dangerous than people might realize, and can cause serious injury (close contact detonation), or possibly death if it goes off in someone's face I'd guess. There are actually flashbang simulators you can legally buy. All the simulators are is a canister that uses compressed air to make a 110+ decibel BANG and no flash, so they are just a noise diversion device.

Pretty much sums up my feelings for Glocks as well, & also how I use them.....

I could very well be incorrect, but I thought with the proper tax stamp, a civilian could own "explosive" devices???

 

[APatriot]

Aer you implying only poor men buy Glock's & S&W's........

To reduce any "defensive posturing", allow me simply to say if Sigs were not so "pricy", more would carry Sig. How does that "do ya"?

 

[ZX9RCAM]

To reduce any "defensive posturing", allow me simply to say if Sigs were not so "pricy", more would carry Sig. How does that "do ya"?

I can likely agree with that statement.....While I own Kimbers & HK's (several Glocks & S&W's) & other unfired guns bought as collector pieces, I have never even fired a Sig before so I suppose I should buy one or two to see.

 

[TexasRedneck]

To reduce any "defensive posturing", allow me simply to say if Sigs were not so "pricy", more would carry Sig. How does that "do ya"?

Hmmmm...how does that translate to those of us that carry a Wilson or Ed Brown?


This is MY "daily carry"....along w/a pair of P-238's. For clarification purposes - I tote one of the 238's in my pocket, with another available if needed/wanted, an' the Wilson as clothing allows.