Poll: Are you wearing a facemask?

[rotor]

So, in this scenario, we know that we are asymptomatic?

Yes, you are asymptomatic. You don't know that you have Covid (because you would quarantine if you did).

 

[kbaxter60]

I wear a mask into church, but take it off when I get to my seat.

Interestingly, I was not wearing a mask at church, yet that's where I got it. One member had gone to a hairdresser out of state and that's where it started. I would tell you that it's pretty darn contagious, as I worked in the sound booth and was not able to interact with many church members that day. Quite a few congregants got it. I got it. Brought it home to wife. It was pretty nasty and did NOT want to let go easily.

 

[rotor]

Pretty major study out there that says asymptomatic people do not spread it.

Possible true, but in the scenario I posted, if you were a carrier or just beginning to get the disease and didn't know it yet, and a mask might prevent others from getting it, would you wear a mask?
This is a basic question of would you wear a mask that in no way benefits you but if you just happened to be contagious MIGHT (who knows) prevent someone else from getting it. All hypothetical. Not interested in what some study shows or does not show. If your wearing a mask helped someone else would you?

 

[jrbfishn]

Wished I could, but currently I'm in a situation where I don't have any choice. As much as wearing a mask chafes me raw as matter of principle, I'm wearing one.

I understand your situation. Not meant as a put down to you.

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[ZX9RCAM]

Yes, you are asymptomatic. You don't know that you have Covid (because you would quarantine if you did).

I'm pretty dense, does this actually answer my question?

 

[toddnjoyce]

Let's assume that the average mask has no value in protecting the person wearing it. That is an assumption. Let's assume that if you had an asymptomatic case (but could infect others) that a mask might (I say might) lower the risk of you spreading it to others, would you wear a mask as CDC recommends?
A simple question. Please no more philosophical responses. Just an answer to my hypothetical (possibly true) question.

What I would do if I knew I was contagious is stay the fück home and not wander my ass around in public. I’ll even extend that thought a bit: if someone has a reasonable belief they shouldn’t go somewhere because they can get other people sick (for any reason, not just COVID), they should either stay home or get a recommendation (and actually follow it) from a medical professional.

Unfortunately, this is the one thing that no body wants to do: accept personal responsibility for their own actions.

 

[Hoji]

Possible true, but in the scenario I posted, if you were a carrier or just beginning to get the disease and didn't know it yet, and a mask might prevent others from getting it, would you wear a mask?
This is a basic question of would you wear a mask that in no way benefits you but if you just happened to be contagious MIGHT (who knows) prevent someone else from getting it. All hypothetical. Not interested in what some study shows or does not show. If your wearing a mask helped someone else would you?

The independent studies are also showing that compliance diapers don’t protect either the wearer or others.

 

[Axxe55]

I understand your situation. Not meant as a put down to you.

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I didn't take it as one JRB. I pretty much stay at home, and very seldom go to town anyways. There are times I need things and I go as needed.

 

[rotor]

What I would do if I knew I was contagious is stay the **** home and not wander my ass around in public. I’ll even extend that thought a bit: if someone has a reasonable belief they shouldn’t go somewhere because they can get other people sick (for any reason, not just COVID), they should either stay home or get a recommendation (and actually follow it) from a medical professional.

Unfortunately, this is the one thing that no body wants to do: accept personal responsibility for their own actions.

That is the obvious answer because you knew you were positive. Not what I asked. Are we all going to avoid the obvious? If you wearing a mask might prevent others from getting the disease would you wear a mask? A simple question. Not like Hoji telling me what independent studies show.
It is very simple and constantly avoided. If you had the power to prevent someone else from getting this disease by wearing a mask would you? I am not claiming that it would work. It is a hypothetical.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Yes, you are asymptomatic. You don't know that you have Covid (because you would quarantine if you did).

Here’s the funny thing: everybody is asymptomatic of everything until they become symptomatic.

Medical Definition of Asymptomatic

Medical Author: William C. Shiel Jr., MD, FACP, FACR
Reviewed on 12/27/2018
Asymptomatic: Without symptoms. For example, an asymptomatic infection is an infection with no symptoms.

Medical Definition of Asymptomatic

Read medical definition of Asymptomatic

www.medicinenet.com

As a person capable of critical thinking, if I am without symptoms, I cannot simply assume I’m always a walking Typhoid Mary for everything that’s out there.

 

[rotor]

So far there are only vague answers to my simple are you still beating your wife type question. If you say you will wear a mask for purely altruistic reasons in that it may help your neighbor then you are giving up your constitutional rights and if you say that you will not wear a mask even if it hurts your neighbor then you are just an ass*ole but have been true at least to your arguments here.
I don't honestly believe that a mask will protect me. It may prevent me from giving it to someone else and I don't have any convincing evidence either way.
For me, I will wear a mask indoors at stores when I shop. Not for me but for other people as it is no sweat off of my back to wear a mask for 1/2 hour a day at most. Not because government says I must but because I might prevent one of you from catching it.
Todd, I have a dictionary and can look up asymptomatic.

 

[jrbfishn]

Let's assume that the average mask has no value in protecting the person wearing it. That is an assumption. Let's assume that if you had an asymptomatic case (but could infect others) that a mask might (I say might) lower the risk of you spreading it to others, would you wear a mask as CDC recommends?
A simple question. Please no more philosophical responses. Just an answer to my hypothetical (possibly true) question.

Let's assume there is a deadly disease. It is ravaging an entire continent. More than 50 percent of those that get it WILL die and it can be spread by people that cough. Or talk to close to you.
Now let's assume it starts to spread to other countries. There are cases starting to pop up in the general population of several industrial nations because we allow travel from there.

There is no shutdown. No mask order. No threats from the Government.
And all we do is quarantine those that are sick as well as their caregivers. Not the whole population. And the disease dies down and half the world does NOT die.

Oh,,,wait, we did that. Wasn't that called Ebola?


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[jrbfishn]

So far there are only vague answers to my simple are you still beating your wife type question. If you say you will wear a mask for purely altruistic reasons in that it may help your neighbor then you are giving up your constitutional rights and if you say that you will not wear a mask even if it hurts your neighbor then you are just an ass*ole but have been true at least to your arguments here.
I don't honestly believe that a mask will protect me. It may prevent me from giving it to someone else and I don't have any convincing evidence either way.
For me, I will wear a mask indoors at stores when I shop. Not for me but for other people as it is no sweat off of my back to wear a mask for 1/2 hour a day at most. Not because government says I must but because I might prevent one of you from catching it.
Todd, I have a dictionary and can look up asymptomatic.

You got vague answers to a very vague hypothetical question.

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[bbbass]

That is the obvious answer because you knew you were positive. Not what I asked. Are we all going to avoid the obvious? If you wearing a mask might prevent others from getting the disease would you wear a mask? A simple question. Not like Hoji telling me what independent studies show.
It is very simple and constantly avoided. If you had the power to prevent someone else from getting this disease by wearing a mask would you? I am not claiming that it would work. It is a hypothetical.

If I had AIDs or an STD, but didn't know I had, yes I would go ahead and have coital relations but wear a condom???

Asking for a friend...

 

[rotor]

If I had AIDs or an STD, but didn't know I had, yes I would go ahead and have coital relations but wear a condom???

An honest man. I was thinking of ask the HIV question.

 

[bbbass]

An honest man. I was thinking of ask the HIV question.

It was also a hypothetical question. Meaning, "should I???"

The honest answer is:

Depends. If one has risk factors then yes, protect partner(s) is the ethical thing. But you won't find me doing it... I control my risk factors (I'm true to my marriage, don't use needles) and also hate condoms and haven't worn one since that unfortunate Herpes breakout.

 

[rotor]

It was also a hypothetical question. Meaning, "should I???"

The honest answer is:

Depends. If one has risk factors then yes, protect partner(s) is the ethical thing. But you won't find me doing it... I control my risk factors (I'm true to my marriage, don't use needles) and also hate condoms and haven't worn one since that unfortunate Herpes breakout.

It comes down to a basic question though, if you could take an action that might (no proof) help your neighbors and was no big deal on your part, would you do it?
This is not the same as would you intervene and risk your life if someone was being robbed. This is asking would you do a minor inconvenience if it helped others. Condoms are a MAJOR inconvenience. Not even ballpark close to wearing a face mask when shopping. We all know this is not a forever thing.

 

[bbbass]

It comes down to a basic question though, if you could take an action that might (no proof) help your neighbors and was no big deal on your part, would you do it?
This is not the same as would you intervene and risk your life if someone was being robbed. This is asking would you do a minor inconvenience if it helped others. Condoms are a MAJOR inconvenience. Not even ballpark close to wearing a face mask when shopping. We all know this is not a forever thing.

A face condom is a major inconvenience to some people... It restricts breathing and fogs the glasses. People I know well see me in the store, don't recognize me, and if they did would be too terrified to stop and chat. And if forced to wear one, violates the rights of the person being forced.

What would I do... voluntarily? Not sayin.

What DO I do? What I'm required to do to see a doctor or shop in a store. I don't see a prophylactic benefit to mandates to wear one at ALL times.

 

[rotor]

A face condom is a major inconvenience to some people... It restricts breathing and fogs the glasses. People I know well see me in the store, don't recognize me, and if they did would be too terrified to stop and chat. And if forced to wear one, violates the rights of the person being forced.

What would I do... voluntarily? Not sayin.

What DO I do? What I'm required to do to see a doctor or shop in a store. I don't see a prophylactic benefit to mandates to wear one at ALL times.

A bit of a back track to my hypothetical. I do exactly what you do. But honest.

 

[jrbfishn]

It comes down to a basic question though, if you could take an action that might (no proof) help your neighbors and was no big deal on your part, would you do it?
This is not the same as would you intervene and risk your life if someone was being robbed. This is asking would you do a minor inconvenience if it helped others. Condoms are a MAJOR inconvenience. Not even ballpark close to wearing a face mask when shopping. We all know this is not a forever thing.

When you choose to help a neighbor, that is a choice. What if you were mandated to help everytime you could make their life better and were asked????
Condom is a major inconvenience??? Masks are not forever????
You are supposed to be a medical professional! Do you have any idea how many lives could be saved if they are??????
You are still an idiot.

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