No where did I say that lee and dillon are the same quality. But I think you proved my point the cadilac and yugo will both get you to the same place and with the yugo you still have a wad of cash in your pocket.
I love my Hornady LnL AP. The nice thing is readily available caliber conversions.Yeah, so far everyones said to go with dillon 550 or 650. I guess thats where ill start looking
All of the press have plus and minuses. The Dillon 550 with a case feeder is a great press. The fact that you have to index manually slows everything down for a beginner which makes it easier to learn. What sold me on the 650 is the extra spot on the tool head for the powder check system (alerts to gross over/under loads)
Exactly, you are buying a tool that should be used 15 or 20 years. It should be a joy to use, not a hassle for that lifespan. Lee is the harbor freight of reloading, one time use tools.A wad of cash, sore back, and no chicks...NO thanks. Be cheap somewhere else.
How about staring with a $35 investment that will teach you the basics before getting into the big stuff?
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/735723/lee-classic-loader-308-winchester
Who woulda though a reloading thread would devolve in to bashing Lee products?
Vaq nailed it. If your only purpose is to save money and you can make simple adjustments on a simple machine Lee is a good option.
If you are unable to make simple adjustments on a simple machine, or you are more concerned with speed than savings, go with a Dillon.
Not everyone loads 30,000 rounds a month, and not everyone is willing to spend a few minutes setting up.
Both work just fine, anything beyond that is Glock vs 1911. People shouldn't let their ego get in the way of the thread.
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I don't see where anyone has let their ego cloud their judgement. I do see honest reviews of different products. Like I said in my first reply, there are some Lee products I prefer; the Lee Autoprime happens to be one of them. Comparing progressive presses, there is a marked difference in build quality. As long as one knows what they are getting the choice is their own.
I like the quick change bushings on the lock n load for that reason. I plan on stepping up to a dillon 1050 at some point.