Question about traveling with guns in TX

[Dawico]

Thanks all for the replies. Seems like it's easy enough to keep it out of sight (and unloaded if I want to be really on the safe side).


The sale idea is good, I think I might do that, seems easy enough from what I found here: Frequently Asked Legal Questions (texas.gov)

So here's my $0.02.

If you're going to leave it unloaded and separate from the ammo just hide it at home and bring a baseball bat, ball, and glove. The bat will be of more use than an unloaded and inaccessible firearm.

If you are this concerned about possessing it loaded then maybe you shouldn't own it.

Leave it loaded and hidden in the vehicle. If you get stopped don't volunteer any information but don't lie either.

This is all assuming you are a decent law abiding citizen. If not you're on your own.

Take my advice for what it's worth.

 

[Hoji]

The two times I got pulled over for traveling in haste while having a fun in the car, the cop looked at my licenses, asked if I had a gun with me, told me to leave it where it was and gave me my receipt for premium travel speeds.

“Receipt for premium travel speeds” that is fucking gold right there.

 

[txinvestigator]

In Texas, a vehicle is considered an extension of the home.
So the law states you can have a firearm loaded while traveling. If for some reason you do get pulled over, let the LEO know you have a loaded firearm, and where it is.
Now, since your friend is the owner of the vehicle, he is technically the owner of the firearm as well while traveling in his vehicle.
Possession is 9/10ths of the law.
I don't foresee any problems though.
Unless y'all are the rowdy type, and just might get pulled over.
But what the hay! Thems my 2 cents worth...


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**sigh**

I'm Texas your vehicle is NOT an extension of your home. No law states that. In fact, there are restrictions on unlicensed car carry that do not apply for car carry.

 

[txinvestigator]

If you want to get nerdy; have the driver give you A dollar for your gun. Now it’s his along with the car and in his control.

When you reach your destination give him a dollar to buy your gun back.

Of course no BOS.

Texas, nor federal law, regulates "ownership," possession is the key word for this scenario, specifically possession "on or about your person". As Renegade already posted, the driver will be in possession under the OPs scenario.

 

[txinvestigator]

Thanks all for the replies. Seems like it's easy enough to keep it out of sight (and unloaded if I want to be really on the safe side).


The sale idea is good, I think I might do that, seems easy enough from what I found here: Frequently Asked Legal Questions (texas.gov)

Texas makes no distinction between the loaded or unloaded condition of a handgun carried on or about your person in a vehicle. A violation will apply to a loaded or unloaded handgun equally.

The sale thing is just silly. Again, Texas does not regulate ownership.

 

[Renegade]

In Texas, a vehicle is considered an extension of the home.
So the law states you can have a firearm loaded while traveling. If for some reason you do get pulled over, let the LEO know you have a loaded firearm, and where it is.
Now, since your friend is the owner of the vehicle, he is technically the owner of the firearm as well while traveling in his vehicle.
Possession is 9/10ths of the law.
I don't foresee any problems though.
Unless y'all are the rowdy type, and just might get pulled over.
But what the hay! Thems my 2 cents worth...

None of this is correct. Not one sentence.

 

[Army 1911]

The definition of an unloaded handgun for self defense is the same as a rock.

 

[oldag]

The definition of an unloaded handgun for self defense is the same as a rock.

I thought the correct legal term would be "club".

 

[Renegade]

The definition of an unloaded handgun for self defense is the same as a rock.

Yep.

The only place in the PC where I have found Texas differentiates from loaded/unloaded is access to a child:


Sec. 46.13. MAKING A FIREARM ACCESSIBLE TO A CHILD. (a) In this section:
(1) "Child" means a person younger than 17 years of age.
(2) "Readily dischargeable firearm" means a firearm that is loaded with ammunition, whether or not a round is in the chamber.

 

[SURVIVOR619]

In a couple months I'm traveling through a few states and found this page to be an excellent resource for CHL reciprocity info. I understand from your post OP that you don't have the CHL; however, information exists for non-CHL rules as well.

Texas Gun Laws & LTC | USCCA CCW Reciprocity Map

Last Updated 05/19/2021. Concealed carry is legal with a Texas LTC. Discover Texas Handgun Laws, Concealed Handgun Licenses & Reciprocity Map

www.usconcealedcarry.com

Scroll down on the page to the "Carry in Vehicle" section for good info and links to the Texas Penal Code, from which you should read and come to your own certainties.

 

[LoneStarTX]

Sure you can have in car concealed even but even with LTC it must be concealed. But when you exit you can't carry it unless you have LTC. Most guns are stolen from cars so lock it up which makes it useless for protection when you get back in. Until we get Constitutional Carry your best thing is to get a LTC.

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[Tex1961]

Sure you can have in car concealed even but even with LTC it must be concealed. But when you exit you can't carry it unless you have LTC. Most guns are stolen from cars so lock it up which makes it useless for protection when you get back in. Until we get Constitutional Carry your best thing is to get a LTC.

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Not 100% correct. It can be displayed as long as it is in a belt or shoulder holster with LTC

 

[rotor]

Sure you can have in car concealed even but even with LTC it must be concealed. But when you exit you can't carry it unless you have LTC. Most guns are stolen from cars so lock it up which makes it useless for protection when you get back in. Until we get Constitutional Carry your best thing is to get a LTC.

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Not exactly true. With LTC you can carry open in shoulder or belt holster. Without LTC you can carry your gun directly from car to house, shooting range or directly to where you are going.

 

[oohrah]

Sure you can have in car concealed even but even with LTC it must be concealed. But when you exit you can't carry it unless you have LTC. Most guns are stolen from cars so lock it up which makes it useless for protection when you get back in. Until we get Constitutional Carry your best thing is to get a LTC.

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No. If you have an LTC, you can open carry in your vehicle as long as it is carried in a belt holster or shoulder holster.

 

[LoneStarTX]

Not exactly true. With LTC you can carry open in shoulder or belt holster. Without LTC you can carry your gun directly from car to house, shooting range or directly to where you are going.

Even with LTC handguns must be concealed in the car. Without LT to/ from house, range are the exceptions but other than autos you can't just carry.

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[rotor]

Even with LTC handguns must be concealed in the car. Without LT to/ from house, range are the exceptions but other than autos you can't just carry.

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Nope. With LTC can carry open in belt or shoulder holster. I understand that the laws are confusing and they do change but as far as I know this is the latest.

 

[Tex1961]

Nope. With LTC can carry open in belt or shoulder holster. I understand that the laws are confusing and they do change but as far as I know this is the latest.

Rotor is correct. With LTC you can carry open as long as it is in a shoulder or belt holster. I am a Texas LTC instructor.

 

[LoneStarTX]

To clarify open carry in autos: with or without LTC, handguns must be accessible on or about the person and must be in holster. Also not mentioned were US Post Office buildings and property (such as parking lots) are prohibited.

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[txinvestigator]

Even with LTC handguns must be concealed in the car. Without LT to/ from house, range are the exceptions but other than autos you can't just carry.

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Just out of curiosity, can you show us the law that makes you think that? While you are at it, can you show us where "ranges" are a named place where you can carry without a license?

 

[LoneStarTX]

I stand corrected; open but in holster. Private shooting ranges are only restricted by owner rules. Public ranges are under state regs.

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