I obtained my first CHL license in mid 90's. I let it expire and took renewal in 2004(?) - it expired 2/2008. I think the last time (2004) I had to start as a new CHL because my original license had expired more than 2 years ago. (Though, my memory may not be wholly accurate due to how long ago that was.) I am wanting to renew now and not sure if I can take the renewal class or have to start over. From reading GC411.185, I don't see anything about a time limit one has to renew. So, do you think I can take the renewal or start over? I sent an email today to obtain my PIN number. Though one issue may be that I have moved since my license expired in 2/2008 and the DPS doesn't have my new address (for CHL - DL is OK).